1 00:00:21,340 --> 00:00:07,870 [Music] 2 00:00:27,859 --> 00:00:23,840 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:33,860 --> 00:00:27,869 standard of paranormal radio gene 4 00:00:36,350 --> 00:00:33,870 Steinberg welcome back to the para cast 5 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:36,360 with gene Steinberg and Chris O'Brien 6 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:38,340 and we have a very special guest this 7 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:40,710 week governor Jesse Ventura a former 8 00:00:46,460 --> 00:00:43,110 governor Jesse Ventura who of course has 9 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:46,470 his own show which he calls conspiracy 10 00:00:51,290 --> 00:00:49,170 theory with Jesse Ventura and by the way 11 00:00:54,650 --> 00:00:51,300 that's right up the para cast Sally as 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:54,660 you well know his current book is 63 13 00:01:00,110 --> 00:00:57,450 documents the government doesn't want 14 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:00,120 you to read and governor welcome to the 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:02,430 power cast I promise I will not ask you 16 00:01:08,180 --> 00:01:05,610 to recite by memory those 63 documents 17 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:08,190 okay well I hope you don't because I do 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:10,560 have the book in front of me and the 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:12,210 interesting thing was dick and I 20 00:01:15,740 --> 00:01:13,890 actually wrote the book almost six 21 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:15,750 months ago and that's how long it takes 22 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:17,580 to get it to get it published and all 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:19,320 that yeah I know I've been there so I'm 24 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:21,210 already moving forward where and I'm 25 00:01:25,010 --> 00:01:23,190 working on my next book so this is 26 00:01:26,899 --> 00:01:25,020 actually like going back and review 27 00:01:28,580 --> 00:01:26,909 hardly know I always ask this because 28 00:01:30,770 --> 00:01:28,590 I've written a lot of technology books 29 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:30,780 you have a book like this you ever look 30 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:32,700 at it like six months later and say my 31 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:34,860 god I should go back for a second 32 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:36,720 edition and change something no not 33 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:37,200 really 34 00:01:44,420 --> 00:01:42,330 do them pretty much and I'm so busy in 35 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:44,430 my life that I really don't have time to 36 00:01:47,570 --> 00:01:45,900 go back through them I suppose 37 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:47,580 occasionally there might be one or two 38 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:49,320 little things that I wish I would have 39 00:01:53,929 --> 00:01:51,720 said differently or whatever the most 40 00:01:55,789 --> 00:01:53,939 part now well your life has been I guess 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:55,799 kind of unlikely in some ways because 42 00:02:00,940 --> 00:01:57,810 you have this you start out in the US 43 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:00,950 Navy you get into wrestling acting 44 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:02,790 somewhere along the line you become 45 00:02:07,940 --> 00:02:05,759 governor of the state actually many 46 00:02:09,949 --> 00:02:07,950 people don't realize that or for 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:09,959 whatever reason but I was actually mayor 48 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:11,970 of the six largest city in Minnesota 49 00:02:17,569 --> 00:02:15,510 Brooklyn Park cheering from 1990 to 1994 50 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:17,579 so I then went back to the private 51 00:02:22,940 --> 00:02:19,769 sector for four years and then came back 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:22,950 and won the governorship in 98 so I did 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:24,810 have governing experience having been 54 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:25,330 amazed 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:27,910 first now in these days with so much in 56 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:30,490 terms of corporate contributions can an 57 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:34,240 independent anywhere anymore become a 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:37,090 governor or a mayor or any high position 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:40,330 oh I can that's all I can answer for and 60 00:02:47,610 --> 00:02:42,490 I can say exit tell it to you this way 61 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:47,620 when I ran in 98 I only raised $300,000 62 00:02:52,590 --> 00:02:50,050 to become the governor of Minnesota Wow 63 00:02:54,690 --> 00:02:52,600 my opponents the Democrats Republicans 64 00:02:58,350 --> 00:02:54,700 spent over 12 million and that's some 65 00:03:00,300 --> 00:02:58,360 change today well I won no $300,000 and 66 00:03:02,670 --> 00:03:00,310 the reason that's important to me I'll 67 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:02,680 tell you why when I was growing up my 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:05,380 father was a World War two veteran and 69 00:03:09,449 --> 00:03:07,090 of course he only on amazed great 70 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:09,459 education he said to me one day when I 71 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:11,800 was a young teenager he said all 72 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,650 politicians are crooks and I just looked 73 00:03:18,330 --> 00:03:16,480 at him and said come on dad you can't 74 00:03:20,340 --> 00:03:18,340 make a blanket statement like that they 75 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:20,350 can't all be crooks and he said oh 76 00:03:24,780 --> 00:03:22,510 yesterday I'll you want to know why and 77 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:24,790 I said why he said because they spend a 78 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:26,800 million dollars for a job that pays a 79 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:29,350 hundred grand and I thought about what's 80 00:03:33,330 --> 00:03:31,000 wrong with that ledger well I thought 81 00:03:35,370 --> 00:03:33,340 he's right they spend more than what 82 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:35,380 they'll earn well my dad unfortunately 83 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:38,080 one of my regrets of life was that my 84 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:41,110 dad and mom had both passed away before 85 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:43,630 I became governor so they never had the 86 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:46,690 opportunity to see me do that but I can 87 00:03:51,930 --> 00:03:49,360 say this to my father your son isn't the 88 00:03:54,210 --> 00:03:51,940 crook because I raised and spent three 89 00:03:56,190 --> 00:03:54,220 hundred thousand to become governor and 90 00:03:58,590 --> 00:03:56,200 I made a hundred and twenty thousand a 91 00:04:00,630 --> 00:03:58,600 year for four years which means I made 92 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:00,640 four hundred and eighty thousand so I've 93 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:03,130 been I'm the only elected official at a 94 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:05,680 state or federal level who could state 95 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:07,750 that they made more money from the 96 00:04:12,509 --> 00:04:10,570 salary they to holding that office than 97 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:12,519 what they spent to get it you were a 98 00:04:16,289 --> 00:04:14,830 good investor I have to worry about 99 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:16,299 these people who spend a billion dollars 100 00:04:21,210 --> 00:04:19,510 to get into office I go by a simple 101 00:04:23,159 --> 00:04:21,220 premise with the Democrats and 102 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:23,169 Republicans and it's this if I could 103 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:25,120 debate them I could beat them that's 104 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:28,240 sometimes is the rub let's look at the 105 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:30,820 path that you've traveled since being 106 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:33,610 the governor and you're involved in a 107 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:35,140 lot of research about conspiracy 108 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:37,150 theories about areas where the 109 00:04:40,470 --> 00:04:37,600 government 110 00:04:41,970 --> 00:04:40,480 is not telling you the truth now I don't 111 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:41,980 know about you but when I was a kid 112 00:04:46,050 --> 00:04:44,410 growing up in Brooklyn New York and you 113 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:46,060 were mayor Brooklyn Park so maybe we're 114 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:48,850 neighbors separated by about 1,500 miles 115 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:50,560 and as you know I did live in Minnesota 116 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:52,600 and I had a great time there wasn't much 117 00:04:57,060 --> 00:04:55,030 into winters but I loved the state 118 00:04:59,070 --> 00:04:57,070 I saw friends there okay and I'm not 119 00:05:02,310 --> 00:04:59,080 trying to butter you up here sir okay 120 00:05:03,930 --> 00:05:02,320 but we were always told as kids the 121 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:03,940 government you know trust the government 122 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:06,190 my late father worked for the government 123 00:05:10,350 --> 00:05:08,140 he worked for the New York City Transit 124 00:05:11,940 --> 00:05:10,360 System we trusted the government they 125 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:11,950 were telling us the truth somewhere 126 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:14,500 along the line I might add my father 127 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:16,210 worked for the government too he was a 128 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:18,160 City Minneapolis Street department 129 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:21,640 employee okay my father was a bus driver 130 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:23,350 then he became a supervisor I think very 131 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:26,470 close to the kind of profession now the 132 00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:29,650 one thing here is that over the years we 133 00:05:33,570 --> 00:05:31,750 have decided that we can't trust what 134 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:33,580 the government does we don't believe 135 00:05:38,340 --> 00:05:36,070 anything they say anymore so even from 136 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:38,350 the Kennedy assassination on wood there 137 00:05:41,730 --> 00:05:39,970 was a lot of distrust built in the 138 00:05:43,950 --> 00:05:41,740 government was it the Kennedy 139 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:43,960 assassination all the doubts of the rose 140 00:05:50,460 --> 00:05:46,840 that started this trend I think so 141 00:05:52,860 --> 00:05:50,470 absolutely it was for me pretty much 142 00:05:54,540 --> 00:05:52,870 because I was alive when John Kennedy 143 00:05:57,030 --> 00:05:54,550 was killed although I was only I think 144 00:05:59,580 --> 00:05:57,040 12 years old or whatever I was in yeah I 145 00:06:03,210 --> 00:05:59,590 think I was 12 at the time the 13 one of 146 00:06:04,710 --> 00:06:03,220 the two and you know I accepted it you 147 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:04,720 know because I was so young I didn't 148 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:06,430 know any better and then when I got out 149 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:08,530 of the military I happened to go to a 150 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:10,930 college and hear mark Lane speaking this 151 00:06:14,910 --> 00:06:13,030 was in the early seventies right former 152 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:14,920 New York State Assemblyman I saw him in 153 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:17,350 the city attorney and Mark Lane was one 154 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:19,270 of the first people of course that 155 00:06:24,330 --> 00:06:21,730 questioned severely the Warren 156 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:24,340 Commission and whether Oswald did it and 157 00:06:28,350 --> 00:06:26,230 when I heard him speak and all the 158 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:28,360 things he talked about it opened my you 159 00:06:33,180 --> 00:06:30,310 know it really opened my eyes up to go 160 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:33,190 wow you know it wasn't what they told us 161 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:36,160 maybe and so then it kind of laid Devon 162 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:38,350 for a number of years because I then 163 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:40,510 pursued my pro wrestling career and 164 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:42,910 believe it or not what brought me back 165 00:06:47,010 --> 00:06:45,250 to it was pro wrestling because in the 166 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:47,020 mid 80s pro wrestling went through a 167 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:49,570 massive change it used to be territories 168 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:51,340 with twenty six promoters 169 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:53,110 all throughout the country or the 170 00:06:57,390 --> 00:06:55,120 mid-eighties is one Vince McMahon went 171 00:06:59,879 --> 00:06:57,400 national and literally put all the other 172 00:07:01,920 --> 00:06:59,889 ones out of business and took over the 173 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:01,930 country well we went from living 174 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:04,510 somewhere and driving every night to 175 00:07:08,969 --> 00:07:06,970 wrestle well now we were national so we 176 00:07:11,010 --> 00:07:08,979 had to fly everywhere and that's where 177 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:11,020 the change took place for me because 178 00:07:15,629 --> 00:07:12,910 when I had to fly all the time it's very 179 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:15,639 boring and so I started then reading 180 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:18,100 every book I could on the murder of John 181 00:07:23,370 --> 00:07:20,560 Kennedy and so I studied it for probably 182 00:07:25,770 --> 00:07:23,380 well over 25 years before I got involved 183 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:25,780 and you know conspiracies theory and all 184 00:07:29,719 --> 00:07:26,560 the stuff today 185 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:29,729 I remember mark Lane telling us how the 186 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:32,800 rifle this Italian rifle that Lee Harvey 187 00:07:37,379 --> 00:07:35,290 Oswald used couldn't possibly have been 188 00:07:39,180 --> 00:07:37,389 used to do this because you can't fire 189 00:07:41,370 --> 00:07:39,190 the thing accurately enough fast enough 190 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:41,380 I'm not a hunter I don't play one on TV 191 00:07:45,659 --> 00:07:43,960 I know nothing about guns but the 192 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:45,669 illustrations he presented were very 193 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:47,889 compelling to me well I can back that up 194 00:07:52,650 --> 00:07:49,840 because in my show last year I'm 195 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:52,660 conspiracies really we reconstructed the 196 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:54,130 whole thing and we didn't even have 197 00:07:59,460 --> 00:07:57,070 moving targets we measured it off with 198 00:08:01,290 --> 00:07:59,470 not moving targets the exact distance 199 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:01,300 that the Warren Commission said the 200 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:04,090 shots were fired at and I went up and do 201 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:05,919 a thing that put me the exact height of 202 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:09,310 the supposed nest that Oswald fired some 203 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:12,130 from the Book Depository and I am a 204 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:14,889 shooter I'm a former Navy SEAL I 205 00:08:20,730 --> 00:08:17,710 qualified expert in both pistol and 206 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:20,740 rifle and just because I'm older I can 207 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:22,960 tell you this also as governor of 208 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:25,570 Minnesota I went up to Camp Ripley in 209 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:28,479 Minnesota and fired the m16 and still 210 00:08:32,909 --> 00:08:30,910 qualified as an expert which is two 211 00:08:35,490 --> 00:08:32,919 levels higher than what Lee Harvey 212 00:08:38,850 --> 00:08:35,500 Oswald was in the military 213 00:08:41,550 --> 00:08:38,860 it goes marksman sharpshooter expert 214 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:41,560 Oswald barely qualified as a marksman 215 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:44,110 great that's what I heard and I'm a full 216 00:08:48,990 --> 00:08:46,510 expert well we tried to recreate those 217 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:49,000 shots with the identical weapon and we 218 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:51,190 even had bullets that came out of the 219 00:08:56,910 --> 00:08:54,370 same lot of bullets of Oswald's you 220 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:56,920 cannot work the bolt fast enough the 221 00:09:02,370 --> 00:08:59,680 fastest I could do work the bolt and get 222 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:02,380 three shots off with literally hardly 223 00:09:07,790 --> 00:09:05,190 any act accuracy was slightly over eight 224 00:09:10,190 --> 00:09:07,800 seconds and they're saying Oswald did it 225 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:10,200 in six and have to type our accuracy 226 00:09:14,300 --> 00:09:12,330 with the second third shop that's 227 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:14,310 ridiculous because first of all your 228 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:16,200 first shot would be the most accurate 229 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:17,850 that's the one where you're gonna exhale 230 00:09:23,450 --> 00:09:20,580 you can take your time the bullets 231 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:23,460 already chambered then you fire it well 232 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:25,770 then when you work the pole it takes you 233 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:28,020 totally off target and you have to get 234 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:30,570 back on target and we have the identical 235 00:09:35,510 --> 00:09:33,600 sight telescopic sight that Oswald had 236 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:35,520 on this weapon governor let's pursue 237 00:09:38,690 --> 00:09:37,260 this our next segment because this is 238 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:38,700 really getting fascinating I might 239 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:40,140 understand this more 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00:14:42,639 governor of Minnesota as you know and 366 00:14:46,290 --> 00:14:44,980 the book with dick Russell is called 63 367 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:46,300 documents the government doesn't want 368 00:14:50,610 --> 00:14:48,430 you to read and we're starting with the 369 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:50,620 Kennedy assassination and the governor 370 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:53,440 is telling us here as an expert and 371 00:14:57,629 --> 00:14:54,970 remember Lee Harvey Oswald was a 372 00:14:59,939 --> 00:14:57,639 marksman two levels beneath that as an 373 00:15:01,949 --> 00:14:59,949 expert he couldn't do he couldn't 374 00:15:03,150 --> 00:15:01,959 duplicate the shot you can spend all the 375 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:03,160 time in the world to get the first shot 376 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:05,170 the most accurate but this is also a 377 00:15:11,009 --> 00:15:08,170 kind of clumsy weapon isn't it oh very 378 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:11,019 clumsy and and the telescopic sight was 379 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:13,930 so small it was like a thin cigar and 380 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:15,910 you really couldn't even see the 381 00:15:20,999 --> 00:15:18,550 crosshairs all I could do when I saw the 382 00:15:22,829 --> 00:15:21,009 target is squeeze and pull because you 383 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:22,839 didn't have time to even figure out 384 00:15:28,829 --> 00:15:25,209 where the crosshairs were you know and 385 00:15:31,650 --> 00:15:28,839 now I went to and I shot three shots 386 00:15:35,069 --> 00:15:31,660 four times so I shot a total of twelve 387 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:35,079 shots we did it four times I did score 388 00:15:40,139 --> 00:15:37,930 one headshot out of the twelve but again 389 00:15:42,210 --> 00:15:40,149 I couldn't work the bolts as fast as 390 00:15:44,370 --> 00:15:42,220 they claimed Oswald did and then of 391 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:44,380 course they claimed the first shot or 392 00:15:49,259 --> 00:15:46,480 they don't claim his first shot missed 393 00:15:51,090 --> 00:15:49,269 the second shot was the magic bullet and 394 00:15:54,269 --> 00:15:51,100 the third shot was the head shot 395 00:15:56,460 --> 00:15:54,279 according to our government well then to 396 00:15:59,009 --> 00:15:56,470 show that the first shot would be the 397 00:16:01,530 --> 00:15:59,019 most accurate on the fourth time around 398 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:01,540 I told everyone okay with the first shot 399 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:04,060 I'm gonna kill Jackie because we had it 400 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:06,009 set up with the people in the car and 401 00:16:10,499 --> 00:16:08,019 Jackie of course was to the left of the 402 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:10,509 president but I wanted to show that well 403 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:12,610 the first shot I shot Jackie right 404 00:16:16,829 --> 00:16:14,560 between the shoulder blades because 405 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:16,839 that's the shot you could truly set up 406 00:16:21,629 --> 00:16:19,120 for and do and then of course because 407 00:16:24,269 --> 00:16:21,639 the first shot with Oswald has allegedly 408 00:16:26,020 --> 00:16:24,279 missed or didn't allegedly it did this 409 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:26,030 you know because it entered mr. 410 00:16:30,730 --> 00:16:28,310 he was under the older past that's why 411 00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:30,740 we had to call for she originally the 412 00:16:35,410 --> 00:16:32,750 Warren Commission was going to say the 413 00:16:37,420 --> 00:16:35,420 first shot at Kennedy the second shot 414 00:16:39,940 --> 00:16:37,430 hit Comley and then the third shot was 415 00:16:41,980 --> 00:16:39,950 the head shot but unfortunately there 416 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:41,990 was this shot that hit the curb and 417 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:44,240 injured this man mr. Teague so that's 418 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:46,160 why they had to go back and create the 419 00:16:49,750 --> 00:16:48,050 magic bullet right this is the bullet 420 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:49,760 there's all sorts of things that are 421 00:16:57,790 --> 00:16:55,730 almost paranormal bouncy and right now 422 00:16:59,920 --> 00:16:57,800 the question I would have and Chris is 423 00:17:02,380 --> 00:16:59,930 gonna tie me with some the question I've 424 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:02,390 always had is this is so compelling I've 425 00:17:05,380 --> 00:17:04,850 always been since Mark Lane changed my 426 00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:05,390 life 427 00:17:10,660 --> 00:17:08,270 in terms of my belief systems I read the 428 00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:10,670 book rush to judgment over a couple of 429 00:17:14,170 --> 00:17:12,620 times I think when it came out the thing 430 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:14,180 I didn't understand here and I still 431 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:16,970 understand is why pick this guy 432 00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:19,310 I mean who did this and why would they 433 00:17:25,150 --> 00:17:22,760 pin it on this salami oh because he had 434 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:25,160 no great achievements in his life well 435 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:27,890 first of all you need to understand that 436 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:30,290 Oswald did have more achievements in his 437 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:31,640 life that they let on 438 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:34,000 Lee Oswald was a government agent 439 00:17:39,580 --> 00:17:36,710 there's a book out now by Judith ferry 440 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:39,590 Baker who was who lives in Europe who 441 00:17:44,830 --> 00:17:41,750 refuses to come to the United States for 442 00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:44,840 fear yet but he was Oswald's mistress in 443 00:17:50,890 --> 00:17:48,260 New Orleans and when Oswald worked at 444 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:50,900 the prior to going to Dallas when he 445 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:53,330 worked at the Reilly coffee shop in New 446 00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:54,890 Orleans or the Coffee Company in New 447 00:18:00,280 --> 00:17:57,320 Orleans he worked there with him and her 448 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,290 job was to punch in his timecard 449 00:18:05,650 --> 00:18:03,200 everyday to make it look like he worked 450 00:18:07,450 --> 00:18:05,660 there when the reality was he was 451 00:18:10,540 --> 00:18:07,460 working as an agent for our government 452 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:10,550 and and in her book you even see the 453 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:12,410 time cards with her initials on the 454 00:18:17,410 --> 00:18:15,050 bottom of Lee Harvey Oswald's time cards 455 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:17,420 because the Reilly coffee couples are 456 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:20,000 coffee business in New Orleans was well 457 00:18:25,870 --> 00:18:23,750 known to be a front for the CIA and uh 458 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:25,880 and the other reason you know it is 459 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:28,730 because when Oswald went to and defected 460 00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:31,370 to Russia he defected there and said he 461 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:33,500 was renouncing his citizenship and then 462 00:18:38,170 --> 00:18:35,570 when he came back he had a he had a 463 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:38,180 Russian wife and he and the United 464 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:39,770 States government let him back in 465 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:41,120 the country now he should have been 466 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:43,850 charged as a trader right there and yet 467 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:47,110 the US government actually paid for his 468 00:18:52,450 --> 00:18:49,850 transportation from Russia back to the 469 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:52,460 US now that's a good question here if 470 00:18:58,450 --> 00:18:54,410 he's in the CIA does he have to be a 471 00:18:59,980 --> 00:18:58,460 good shooter no absolutely not no no you 472 00:19:02,830 --> 00:18:59,990 don't have to necessarily be a good 473 00:19:04,990 --> 00:19:02,840 shooter to be in the CIA or anything 474 00:19:06,550 --> 00:19:05,000 that I've got a great deal of work like 475 00:19:08,890 --> 00:19:06,560 that can simply be intelligence 476 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:08,900 gathering or being what Oswald 477 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:11,690 I believe Oswald was involved in a false 478 00:19:16,510 --> 00:19:13,880 defector program because they had a 479 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:16,520 program of false defectors that they 480 00:19:20,530 --> 00:19:18,680 would send to the to defect of the 481 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,540 Soviet Union in which to gather 482 00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:22,640 intelligence or whatever and what was 483 00:19:27,910 --> 00:19:25,220 interesting was while Oswald was in the 484 00:19:30,190 --> 00:19:27,920 Soviet Union when he was in the army he 485 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:30,200 or the Marines he was stationed at 486 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:32,900 Atsugi Japan which was the whole base of 487 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:35,690 the u-2 spy planes well it was ironic 488 00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:37,970 that when Francis Gary Powers was shot 489 00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:39,430 down over Russia 490 00:19:44,020 --> 00:19:42,230 Oswald was actually there at the time or 491 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:44,030 he wasn't shot down no one is 492 00:19:48,970 --> 00:19:46,670 complaining came down so many people 493 00:19:51,460 --> 00:19:48,980 believe that Oswald gave the information 494 00:19:54,010 --> 00:19:51,470 to allow the Russians to do that you 495 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:54,020 might say well why would he do that well 496 00:20:00,040 --> 00:19:56,690 there was an element in our country at 497 00:20:02,020 --> 00:20:00,050 the time Eisenhower was was going to 498 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:02,030 meet with the Soviets and all that and 499 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:04,670 hopefully iron things out them and of 500 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:06,800 course when that happened and the u-2 501 00:20:11,020 --> 00:20:09,020 spy plane was caught over Russia it 502 00:20:13,930 --> 00:20:11,030 stopped all those meetings and all that 503 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:13,940 and I think people in places wanted that 504 00:20:18,810 --> 00:20:15,770 to happen so that the Cold War would 505 00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:18,820 continue the military-industrial complex 506 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:21,500 probably okay so let's go into the 507 00:20:25,660 --> 00:20:23,030 picture we have Oswald who's a 508 00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:25,670 government agent so why do you set them 509 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:28,430 up as a fall guy why do you have to sure 510 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:31,310 nobody nobody in a coup d'etat the 511 00:20:35,260 --> 00:20:33,350 people are not going to except they're 512 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:35,270 going to need someone to blame you've 513 00:20:40,450 --> 00:20:38,330 got to have someone who takes the fall 514 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:40,460 you know because it has to and that's 515 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:42,710 what they did they had and What did he 516 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:45,110 say what did he say I'm a patsy I'm a 517 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:47,930 patsy exactly and then of course they 518 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:50,540 had Ruby kill in two days later no trial 519 00:20:53,450 --> 00:20:52,910 no anything in a coup d'etat you could 520 00:20:56,090 --> 00:20:53,460 never have 521 00:20:57,950 --> 00:20:56,100 trial because if there's a trial then 522 00:21:00,409 --> 00:20:57,960 there'll be witnesses and then it could 523 00:21:02,510 --> 00:21:00,419 be exposed you can never have a trial 524 00:21:02,810 --> 00:21:02,520 and so that's why they had they killed 525 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:02,820 him 526 00:21:07,159 --> 00:21:04,770 and what's interesting about Jack Ruby 527 00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:07,169 the police officer that had Ruby after 528 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:09,809 he shot Oswald ruby was taken up and he 529 00:21:14,539 --> 00:21:11,700 was actually stuck into the cell that 530 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:14,549 Oswald had previously occupied because 531 00:21:19,159 --> 00:21:16,710 if you recall that day they were moving 532 00:21:20,810 --> 00:21:19,169 Oswald from one Jail to another and 533 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,820 that's when Ruby killed him 534 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:23,039 well this police officer if you read 535 00:21:28,490 --> 00:21:25,529 about him he stated that when Ruby got 536 00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:28,500 into the cell he was sweating profusely 537 00:21:33,529 --> 00:21:31,500 he was extremely nervous and he asked 538 00:21:35,630 --> 00:21:33,539 the cop and they all knew Jack Ruby the 539 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:35,640 Dallas police the Jack Ruby asked the 540 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:38,220 cop for a cigarette well about 40 541 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:40,890 minutes later this police officer fired 542 00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:44,130 it was word came back Oswald was dead he 543 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:46,260 walked that to Ruby and said well Jack 544 00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:49,350 it's bad news Oswald's dead you're gonna 545 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:52,140 face you know first-degree murder now do 546 00:21:57,230 --> 00:21:54,570 you know if he said Ruby's reaction was 547 00:21:59,779 --> 00:21:57,240 Ruby became completely calm at that 548 00:22:01,310 --> 00:21:59,789 point he didn't sweat anymore and when 549 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:01,320 the cop said Jack would you like another 550 00:22:05,899 --> 00:22:03,330 cigarette he said no thanks I don't 551 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:05,909 smoke so young expected this to happen 552 00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:08,370 he expected what I would become more 553 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:10,500 call no way it's her gonna face 554 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:12,840 first-degree murder and in Texas I 555 00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:13,970 believe they have capital punishment 556 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:16,860 which means he could be put to death why 557 00:22:20,510 --> 00:22:18,510 would you become more calm 558 00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:20,520 well only if it was a setup he was 559 00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:22,950 basically hired to do that that was his 560 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:25,470 job and he knew he had to be successful 561 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,390 or obviously there would have been some 562 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,240 other type of repercussions for him his 563 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:33,120 family or whatever who knows but yes his 564 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:34,710 whole actions were totally out of 565 00:22:37,370 --> 00:22:36,809 character who's in character is none 566 00:22:39,769 --> 00:22:37,380 other than 567 00:22:41,539 --> 00:22:39,779 former governor Jesse Ventura the book 568 00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:41,549 written with dick Russell is 63 569 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:42,990 documents the government doesn't want 570 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:45,240 you to read we have lots more to go 571 00:22:49,340 --> 00:22:47,010 neighbors the co-host is Chris O'Brien 572 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:49,350 I'm gene 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00:27:37,900 this going on with the Kennedy 672 00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:41,290 assassination so who benefits and why 673 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:43,660 would there be a cover-up who are the 674 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:45,970 guilty parties well the guilty parties 675 00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:48,450 if you watched my TV show this fall 676 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:51,040 conspiracy theory we got a confession 677 00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:54,610 and it would be Howard hunt of Watergate 678 00:28:00,900 --> 00:27:58,030 okay the CIA he did a deathbed 679 00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:00,910 confession to his son st. John we had an 680 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:03,640 audio visual and written confession hunt 681 00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:06,010 said that there the CIA killed him he 682 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:07,960 said he was part of it but on the fringe 683 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:10,480 fringes of it and he named it was 684 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:12,460 William Harvey was in charge and of 685 00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:14,920 course he's in he at that time if you've 686 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:18,070 studied the Kennedy thing there Nate his 687 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:20,410 name comes up because he was the head of 688 00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:22,990 the CIA's assassination element of the 689 00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,380 CIA and also he named david morales and 690 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:28,840 gave and morales had a big reputation 691 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:32,290 for being extremely hardcore and david 692 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:34,360 morales is actually famous for something 693 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:35,290 else 694 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:37,810 four years after the murder of John 695 00:28:42,510 --> 00:28:40,270 Kennedy which which of course he Howard 696 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:42,520 hunt said Morales was part of one of the 697 00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:45,490 main people four years later david 698 00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:48,460 morales killed che guevara Ernesto Che 699 00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:51,220 Guevara down in Bolivia when the lovara 700 00:28:56,670 --> 00:28:53,740 was captured david morales was there 701 00:28:58,770 --> 00:28:56,680 representing the CIA they put Guevara up 702 00:29:01,340 --> 00:28:58,780 against the wall and shot him dead with 703 00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:01,350 no trial or nothing okay so now that 704 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:04,840 Kennedy is dead again you know trying to 705 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:07,210 understand here he Howard hunt if he did 706 00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:09,940 it Howard didn't do it he just knew of 707 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:13,420 it the operation okay but he had guilty 708 00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:15,370 knowledge as they say okay 709 00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:17,950 so who is benefiting other than of 710 00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:19,630 course Lyndon Johnson which is one of 711 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:23,260 the Lyndon Johnson benefited greatly so 712 00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:24,820 did the military industrial complex 713 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:27,190 because Kennedy was there would have 714 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:30,310 been no Vietnam war had Kennedy lived so 715 00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:32,590 we ended up with the Vietnam War the 716 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:35,080 other remember also after the Bay of 717 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,050 Pigs fiasco Kennedy was quoted as saying 718 00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:40,240 he was going to break the CIA into a 719 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:42,700 thousand pieces well obviously he 720 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:44,650 couldn't do that they killed him you 721 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:46,570 remember he fired Allen Dulles 722 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:49,270 he fired Charles Cobell and he fired on 723 00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:53,140 this third sacred power the CIA Kennedy 724 00:29:57,690 --> 00:29:55,540 fired all three of them and I might add 725 00:30:00,510 --> 00:29:57,700 I think it was cabel's brother was the 726 00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:00,520 mayor of Dallas at the time okay and the 727 00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:02,590 other thing here of course is then Bobby 728 00:30:06,090 --> 00:30:04,660 Kennedy is shot down is that far the 729 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:06,100 same conspiracy which happened a few 730 00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:07,450 years later and that's when I was living 731 00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:09,280 in Minnesota by the way to show you how 732 00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:11,830 old I am yeah I don't know you know but 733 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:13,540 you can only wonder you know that a 734 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:16,270 conspiracy theorists were popping field 735 00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:18,730 yeah I believe that Sirhan was a bit of 736 00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:21,160 a Manchurian Candidate because he has no 737 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:24,220 memory of doing it and at that time of 738 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:25,930 course the government had the MKULTRA 739 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:28,450 program going where they were trying to 740 00:30:33,450 --> 00:30:31,330 kick create Manchurian candidates you 741 00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:33,460 know hip hypnotized characters that 742 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:35,620 would go out and assassinate or fight 743 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:37,870 their soldiers of that ilk and or 744 00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:40,150 whatever and you know it's this is all 745 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:43,150 documented the MKULTRA program although 746 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:45,250 they destroyed most of the records of it 747 00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:47,850 and not then of course the other 748 00:30:53,790 --> 00:30:50,940 conspiracy theory is with Teddy Kennedy 749 00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:53,800 and that is that he was supposed to die 750 00:30:58,290 --> 00:30:55,780 at Chappaquiddick but unfortunate 751 00:31:01,380 --> 00:30:58,300 unfortunately he didn't but because he 752 00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,390 had Mary Jo kept at me with him that 753 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:03,760 destroyed him either way so it was a 754 00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:06,670 win-win either Teddy would have died but 755 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:08,830 that certainly made it after that after 756 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:11,230 that Chappaquiddick the ted kennedy 757 00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:13,450 could never run for president because of 758 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:15,520 what happened there so they essentially 759 00:31:20,730 --> 00:31:18,340 destroyed ted kennedy too without 760 00:31:22,350 --> 00:31:20,740 actually killing you okay and the same 761 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:22,360 forces there the military-industrial 762 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:25,420 else I have no idea you know I don't 763 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:28,030 know okay I haven't gone into those that 764 00:31:30,539 --> 00:31:28,809 far but I'm just 765 00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:30,549 telling you what some of the theories 766 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:34,480 are okay now as far as Martin Luther 767 00:31:38,639 --> 00:31:36,370 King because it all seemed to happen 768 00:31:41,129 --> 00:31:38,649 around the same time within a few years 769 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:41,139 within this what five six well period 770 00:31:45,749 --> 00:31:43,240 support the most unique thing about the 771 00:31:47,879 --> 00:31:45,759 King assassination is that you lump it 772 00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:47,889 together with with the murder of Malcolm 773 00:31:53,489 --> 00:31:50,830 X and if you tie it in with the murder 774 00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:53,499 of John Lennon of the Beatles I'll ask 775 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:55,870 you a question the murder of Martin 776 00:32:00,690 --> 00:31:57,970 Luther King the murder of Malcolm X and 777 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:00,700 the murder of John Lennon what do all 778 00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:02,529 three of those murders have in common 779 00:32:07,169 --> 00:32:05,230 there's a common denominator between all 780 00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:07,179 three above what is it I'm gonna answer 781 00:32:10,889 --> 00:32:08,590 the question but I want to say something 782 00:32:12,869 --> 00:32:10,899 very interesting and okay this is a 783 00:32:15,690 --> 00:32:12,879 paranormal show so let's be paranormal 784 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:15,700 when John Lennon was shot that morning 785 00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:17,289 when the announcement first came on the 786 00:32:22,049 --> 00:32:20,440 radio we normally would get up my wife 787 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:22,059 and I at a certain point in time for me 788 00:32:26,369 --> 00:32:24,190 to go to work this particular morning 789 00:32:28,649 --> 00:32:26,379 the clock went off several hours 790 00:32:30,779 --> 00:32:28,659 prematurely the radio came on the first 791 00:32:33,539 --> 00:32:30,789 announcement John Lennon had been shot 792 00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:33,549 and killed okay so what is the 793 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:35,860 similarity then what's the factor what's 794 00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:39,730 the x-factor this Malcolm X dr. King and 795 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,460 John Lennon the common denominator all 796 00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:44,080 three of them were under heavy 797 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:45,820 government surveillance when they were 798 00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:49,090 killed you know government CIA and 799 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:51,070 whatever had them on all three under 800 00:32:55,889 --> 00:32:53,710 surveillance now you asked the question 801 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:55,899 of this if they were under government 802 00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:58,450 surveillance couldn't they have possibly 803 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:02,559 have stopped the killings or take the 804 00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:05,769 reverse angle like where I come from the 805 00:33:11,129 --> 00:33:08,289 Navy SEALs we put people under 806 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:11,139 surveillance so that we can get the best 807 00:33:19,139 --> 00:33:14,559 opportunity at being successful when we 808 00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:19,149 decide to eliminate them hmm so why were 809 00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:20,980 they under government surveillance like 810 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:23,980 they were and I'm only throwing that out 811 00:33:32,249 --> 00:33:30,129 there but anyway go ahead well I want to 812 00:33:34,739 --> 00:33:32,259 I want to point out that some of the 813 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:34,749 documents that you have early on in the 814 00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:37,450 book do cover this ground 815 00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:40,600 and and I must say you you are to be to 816 00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:41,420 command command 817 00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:43,940 research personnel should be commended 818 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:46,550 for being able to pull this this amazing 819 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:50,990 body of documentation out and one of the 820 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:53,050 things that I find very compelling is 821 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:56,630 how the repercussions of decisions like 822 00:34:01,930 --> 00:33:59,450 this reverberate down through history of 823 00:34:04,270 --> 00:34:01,940 course soon after the Kennedy 824 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:04,280 assassination one of the things that you 825 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,260 point out in your book is the Gulf of 826 00:34:12,630 --> 00:34:09,280 Tonkin incident and how this particular 827 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:12,640 kind of it's almost a false flag 828 00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:16,250 scenario where you have well yeah you 829 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:20,380 have you have you have tremendous 830 00:34:25,450 --> 00:34:22,820 repercussions over a single incident 831 00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:25,460 that that then reverberate down through 832 00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:29,660 through the next 15 20 years and you 833 00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:31,550 know close to 60,000 Americans lose 834 00:34:35,890 --> 00:34:34,280 their lives in Vietnam let's talk about 835 00:34:39,970 --> 00:34:35,900 the Gulf of Tonkin incident in and 836 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:39,980 project North Woods and in other clues 837 00:34:45,730 --> 00:34:41,510 that we have that the government 838 00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:45,740 manipulates particular situations to get 839 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:49,220 involved overseas and exerting American 840 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:51,290 power and influence well it's not even 841 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:53,090 just our government false flag 842 00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:55,490 operations generally happened before 843 00:35:02,290 --> 00:34:58,640 every war if you look at if we go back 844 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:02,300 to the Germans the Brooks dog fire there 845 00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,970 was another false flag operation that 846 00:35:10,090 --> 00:35:07,280 building was as important to Germany as 847 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:10,100 the Twin Towers were here and the 848 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,770 building burned down Hitler blamed it on 849 00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:15,200 the Communists got the country all in a 850 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:17,060 big uproar and that's what allowed him 851 00:35:23,410 --> 00:35:20,450 to invade Russia false right operation 852 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:23,420 and they also dressed they dressed poles 853 00:35:27,850 --> 00:35:25,970 up in our Germans up in pull a Polish 854 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:27,860 uniforms on the border and I think that 855 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:30,170 was one of the provocations too to enter 856 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,270 Pola oh yeah absolutely 857 00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:34,640 then if you go over to the opposite 858 00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,480 Japan used a false flag operation 859 00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:40,160 blankets and sold it to their people 860 00:35:45,550 --> 00:35:42,710 that the Chinese had attacked them and 861 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:45,560 that likewise was a false flag operation 862 00:35:50,770 --> 00:35:48,920 so we're not the first to use them they 863 00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:50,780 go down in history if you start studying 864 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:53,630 history you'll see multiple generally 865 00:35:56,410 --> 00:35:54,470 before every 866 00:35:59,470 --> 00:35:56,420 or there will be a false flag operation 867 00:36:01,390 --> 00:35:59,480 of some type and so you know it's the 868 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:01,400 old cliche if it worked once it 869 00:36:06,099 --> 00:36:04,070 certainly can work again I guess can we 870 00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:06,109 say that worked also with the Iraqi war 871 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:09,470 where we thought we were finding weapons 872 00:36:15,070 --> 00:36:11,690 of mass destruction but of course they 873 00:36:16,930 --> 00:36:15,080 weren't there oh yeah also ties to 874 00:36:19,540 --> 00:36:16,940 al-qaeda but that was more just simply 875 00:36:22,270 --> 00:36:19,550 trumped-up intelligence that was simply 876 00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:22,280 the Bush administration plumping up a 877 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:25,160 bunch of stuff selling it with our media 878 00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:27,650 to the American people to justify the 879 00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,780 invasion and of course then when they 880 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:32,000 got in there there was no weapons of 881 00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:33,650 mass destruction there were no ties to 882 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:35,780 al-qaeda if you want to know how I know 883 00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:38,270 that they do that beforehand I'll ask 884 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:39,950 you that but I'll have to do the break 885 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:42,530 we have no governor Jesse Ventura the 886 00:36:45,790 --> 00:36:43,970 book is 63 documents the government 887 00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:45,800 doesn't want you to read I'm Jean 888 00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:47,480 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 889 00:37:02,180 --> 00:36:59,830 [Music] 890 00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:02,190 graphic converter is the image 891 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:04,500 manipulation tool for the rest of us it 892 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:07,410 does not use any database you get full 893 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00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:48,400 governor ok how do you know I know 991 00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:50,810 here's how I know having been in the 992 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:53,630 military yes we truly believe that 993 00:41:59,859 --> 00:41:56,900 Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass 994 00:42:02,589 --> 00:41:59,869 destruction we would have never invaded 995 00:42:04,570 --> 00:42:02,599 Iraq the way we did because if he had 996 00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:04,580 them and could have used them and 997 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,220 literally wiped out our entire army the 998 00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:09,680 thing I also wonder about if our CIA is 999 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,140 so good why couldn't they just take this 1000 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:14,480 guy out and be done with it wait a 1001 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:16,760 minute don't even get into that with me 1002 00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:18,650 because that's first-degree murder and 1003 00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:20,510 what gives us the right to Bob murder 1004 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:23,030 anyone that's one of the documents in my 1005 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:26,690 book the CIA's assassination manual how 1006 00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:29,410 can our government have a manual an 1007 00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:31,910 assassination is nothing more than a 1008 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:33,580 fancy term for first-degree murder 1009 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:35,450 because it's murder and it's 1010 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:36,650 premeditated 1011 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:40,130 how can we advocate that it's okay to go 1012 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:43,640 out with no trial no nothing and simply 1013 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:44,750 murder people 1014 00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:46,970 whether it be in our country or another 1015 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:50,060 country as far as I know murder is 1016 00:42:54,310 --> 00:42:51,230 against the law 1017 00:42:57,130 --> 00:42:54,320 in every country in the world so what 1018 00:42:59,830 --> 00:42:57,140 right do we have like we hate Hugo 1019 00:43:02,080 --> 00:42:59,840 Chavez right now do we have the right to 1020 00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:02,090 go down to Venezuela and kill him 1021 00:43:06,910 --> 00:43:04,580 because we don't like it but he picked 1022 00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:06,920 out Exxon oil and nationalized 1023 00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:09,380 Venezuela's oil well we have the same 1024 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:12,800 token governor when someone tells me why 1025 00:43:17,590 --> 00:43:15,290 don't we just go kill this person we 1026 00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:17,600 have no right to simply just go kill 1027 00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:19,940 someone arbitrarily of course we're 1028 00:43:24,190 --> 00:43:21,470 hearing that now from some Talking Heads 1029 00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:24,200 with regard to Gaddafi in Libya take the 1030 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:25,990 guy out well it's the same problem 1031 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:28,970 exactly who gives us who what who made 1032 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:32,690 us God who made us the big kahuna that 1033 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:35,450 what we in the United States can simply 1034 00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:37,850 make a decision to go out into the world 1035 00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:40,310 and assassinate another leader just 1036 00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:42,080 because he doesn't get along with us 1037 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:44,750 that's our problem is that we behave in 1038 00:43:49,090 --> 00:43:47,090 that manner I live outside the country 1039 00:43:51,550 --> 00:43:49,100 now for almost half a year and you know 1040 00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:51,560 things have changed it used to be that 1041 00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,630 the rest of the world looked at the 1042 00:43:58,750 --> 00:43:56,240 United States as the ray of hope they 1043 00:44:01,000 --> 00:43:58,760 looked at us up on a pedestal meaning 1044 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:01,010 you know maybe we can get to them you 1045 00:44:06,130 --> 00:44:03,170 know what the feeling is now around the 1046 00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:06,140 world feeling is fear of the United 1047 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:09,080 States fear that if they cross us we'll 1048 00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:11,690 invade them overthrow them and occupy 1049 00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:13,430 them you know what the most popular 1050 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:15,950 t-shirt a couple years ago with the 1051 00:44:20,980 --> 00:44:18,770 young people in Mexico I live is I saw 1052 00:44:22,990 --> 00:44:20,990 multiple kids wearing it and you know 1053 00:44:24,820 --> 00:44:23,000 what it was it was a t-shirt with a 1054 00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:24,830 picture of George Bush on it and 1055 00:44:32,110 --> 00:44:26,990 underneath it said weapon of mass 1056 00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,120 destruction yeah and some sad sad or - I 1057 00:44:36,310 --> 00:44:34,160 don't know I don't like that I don't 1058 00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:36,320 like the fact that the rest of the world 1059 00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:38,990 is looking at the United States now like 1060 00:44:44,290 --> 00:44:41,390 we're a tyrant that we've earned it we 1061 00:44:47,290 --> 00:44:44,300 are a tyrant now we don't stand for what 1062 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:47,300 we did before you see the thing is I 1063 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:49,490 refer to the United States now is the 1064 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:52,010 fascist States of America everybody's 1065 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:54,170 complaining saying we're going socialist 1066 00:44:57,830 --> 00:44:56,210 no we've we've already gone 1067 00:45:00,020 --> 00:44:57,840 fascist what 1068 00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:00,030 the definition the basic definition of 1069 00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:03,900 fascism it's when corporations team up 1070 00:45:10,930 --> 00:45:06,390 with organized religion to control the 1071 00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:10,940 government potosi is this is this 1072 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:14,700 gradual slide towards a fascist state or 1073 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:18,770 have we seen a real radical movement 1074 00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:22,410 that's occurred in the past oh let's say 1075 00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:25,740 8 to 12 years how do you look at this 1076 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,200 politically I would say it's been much 1077 00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:30,720 more radical in the last 8 to 12 but 1078 00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:33,060 we've been going this way for the last 1079 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:35,400 for the previous century and let me 1080 00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:37,650 state how I know that there's a 1081 00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:40,470 tremendous individual who passed away in 1082 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:44,070 the 1940 General Smedley Butler of the 1083 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,920 United States Marine Corps Smedley won 1084 00:45:52,460 --> 00:45:48,720 two more congressional medals of Honor 1085 00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,470 and in his final book of memoirs he 1086 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:55,440 wrote in the book he said I didn't 1087 00:45:59,210 --> 00:45:57,450 really sir and this is way he served at 1088 00:46:01,490 --> 00:45:59,220 the turn of the century in the early 1089 00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:01,500 days back there he said I didn't really 1090 00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:03,870 serve the United States of America and 1091 00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:06,150 he said I served the United Fruit 1092 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:08,640 Company because he said whenever someone 1093 00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:11,070 would buck the United Fruit Company down 1094 00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:13,710 in Central and South America they'd send 1095 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:16,560 in the Marines so he said I really 1096 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:19,170 worked for the United Fruit Company now 1097 00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:21,210 that's kind of scary too we got and 1098 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:23,460 Smedley Butler was also involved in 1099 00:46:30,740 --> 00:46:26,010 something that I covered in my last book 1100 00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:30,750 conspiracy American conspiracies wall 1101 00:46:36,140 --> 00:46:33,030 street all the big shots of Wall Street 1102 00:46:38,810 --> 00:46:36,150 tried to take out FDR with the coup 1103 00:46:41,150 --> 00:46:38,820 d'etat and they were gonna use Smedley 1104 00:46:43,150 --> 00:46:41,160 Butler as the new president because they 1105 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:43,160 thought who would be better this time 1106 00:46:48,110 --> 00:46:44,880 Congressional Medal of Honor 1107 00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:48,120 Marine Corps winner you know the people 1108 00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:50,520 will accept that the only problem was 1109 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:53,460 when Smedley got wind of what they were 1110 00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:54,330 going to do 1111 00:47:00,200 --> 00:46:56,760 he ran at them he went to the Congress 1112 00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:00,210 and told he whistle blew and but 1113 00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:02,750 amazingly none of them went to jail 1114 00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:05,190 there was just small amount of publicity 1115 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:08,520 on it and it was swept under the rug 1116 00:47:14,380 --> 00:47:11,220 and this is the same name people I 1117 00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:14,390 believe Prescott Bush was part of it 1118 00:47:20,980 --> 00:47:18,030 George HW Bush's father the grandfather 1119 00:47:23,690 --> 00:47:20,990 to George Bush you know and the 1120 00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:23,700 Rothschilds and all of those people to 1121 00:47:31,310 --> 00:47:26,670 big Wall Street bigwigs and the excuse 1122 00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:31,320 was FBI was taking us to socialism kinda 1123 00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:32,790 sounds familiar about what they're 1124 00:47:39,350 --> 00:47:36,960 saying about Obama ah boy I'll say 1125 00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:39,360 well of course look at Eisenhower's 1126 00:47:44,090 --> 00:47:41,790 farewell speech when he warned us 1127 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:44,100 against the emerging power of the 1128 00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:47,369 military-industrial complex and and what 1129 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:50,100 do we have here we have you know just 1130 00:47:55,850 --> 00:47:52,290 multi-trillion dollar amounts that are 1131 00:48:02,420 --> 00:47:55,860 being spent on on weapons of mass 1132 00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:02,430 destruction warfare colleges were the 1133 00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:04,470 most aggressive country in the world I 1134 00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:06,540 mean what are the countries involved in 1135 00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:10,350 three wars but us you don't see China 1136 00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:12,600 getting involved in this nonsense do you 1137 00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:15,960 no yeah I and China's becoming the 1138 00:48:20,090 --> 00:48:17,700 economic power in the world is there 1139 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:20,100 they probably are already there are the 1140 00:48:24,020 --> 00:48:21,810 economic power of the world we are 1141 00:48:26,810 --> 00:48:24,030 following the exact road in the Roman 1142 00:48:29,330 --> 00:48:26,820 Empire if you go back and study the fall 1143 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:29,340 of the Roman Empire that's exactly where 1144 00:48:32,990 --> 00:48:31,170 the United States is heading because 1145 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:33,000 that's what happened to roll they got 1146 00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:34,890 involved in all these wars around the 1147 00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:37,710 world and it bankrupted them and that's 1148 00:48:42,859 --> 00:48:39,660 exactly what it's doing to us it's 1149 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:42,869 bankrupting us see I have a solution you 1150 00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:45,690 know what it is if we decide to go to 1151 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:48,359 war they should implement immediately a 1152 00:48:54,109 --> 00:48:50,780 war tax to pay for it 1153 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,119 attack should go up that way everyone in 1154 00:48:58,700 --> 00:48:56,400 this country feels some pain and that 1155 00:49:01,040 --> 00:48:58,710 way we pay for the wars instead of 1156 00:49:03,859 --> 00:49:01,050 putting it on the national debt which is 1157 00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:03,869 what we're doing now well in John 1158 00:49:09,170 --> 00:49:06,420 wrangled and his idea of reinstituting 1159 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,180 the draft would also be a similar 1160 00:49:14,810 --> 00:49:12,000 solution too because if everybody had to 1161 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:14,820 sit yeah why and I'll stick this when I 1162 00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:17,130 got a Vietnam zapped and when I got back 1163 00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:19,140 I worked in to stop the draft movement 1164 00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:22,350 and help stop it but today I believe 1165 00:49:27,110 --> 00:49:24,870 was a mistake because I believe if we 1166 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:27,120 didn't have the professional military we 1167 00:49:31,310 --> 00:49:28,650 wouldn't be getting involved in all 1168 00:49:33,110 --> 00:49:31,320 these wars because the general public of 1169 00:49:34,970 --> 00:49:33,120 the United States kind of shrugs it off 1170 00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:34,980 now goes well they all volunteered 1171 00:49:40,190 --> 00:49:37,950 that's their job see but if you have a 1172 00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:40,200 draft that means they're gonna take 1173 00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,420 little Johnny from the neighborhood and 1174 00:49:46,850 --> 00:49:44,880 you know a year later when little Johnny 1175 00:49:48,830 --> 00:49:46,860 comes home in a body bag 1176 00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:48,840 well that upsets the neighborhood that 1177 00:49:57,170 --> 00:49:54,240 doesn't it yes it does I had to see that 1178 00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:57,180 happening growing up with fathers and 1179 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:02,160 brothers okay it's you and me Jesse no 1180 00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,170 it's not no it's no actually what 1181 00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:06,240 happened here is I didn't get in my 1182 00:50:10,850 --> 00:50:08,460 father did my uncle served in World War 1183 00:50:16,850 --> 00:50:10,860 two but right now if I want to get in 1184 00:50:18,260 --> 00:50:16,860 probably I'll join Starfleet okay no 1185 00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:18,270 one's responding to that but that's 1186 00:50:23,450 --> 00:50:19,950 about the best I could do nowadays I can 1187 00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:23,460 just beam up that's how it goes I want 1188 00:50:26,570 --> 00:50:24,480 to ask you a quick question before we 1189 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:26,580 break which is the ultimate conspiracy 1190 00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,740 of course when you get to the paranormal 1191 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:30,720 and this is probably way out of any 1192 00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:32,250 discussion you want to have but we can 1193 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:35,790 get through it real fast in looking for 1194 00:50:39,710 --> 00:50:38,490 documents and stuff and seeing where the 1195 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:39,720 government is hiding things 1196 00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,720 what about things like UFOs and Roswell 1197 00:50:48,350 --> 00:50:44,960 and all that stuff any interest in that 1198 00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:48,360 no because I think you know and I don't 1199 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:50,670 mean to shovel it off but it's not 1200 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,940 important but I wanted to get stuff that 1201 00:50:59,180 --> 00:50:56,400 we cause you know stuff that's man-made 1202 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,190 on earth you know I don't want to get 1203 00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:01,200 off into outer space or anything like 1204 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:03,630 that because you know we've got enough 1205 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,510 homemade conspiracies and homemade 1206 00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:08,640 documents and everything that deal with 1207 00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:11,160 it all year and I don't want to get off 1208 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:13,470 that track because it's much more 1209 00:51:19,580 --> 00:51:16,890 difficult and it shouldn't be but you 1210 00:51:21,770 --> 00:51:19,590 then battle credibility okay point taken 1211 00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:21,780 by the way if you want to contact us 1212 00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:24,300 send your email news at the power cast 1213 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:26,520 com once again that's news of the power 1214 00:51:30,830 --> 00:51:29,610 cast com where we read every message we 1215 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:30,840 get our guest 1216 00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,090 Jesse Ventura former governor of 1217 00:51:37,650 --> 00:51:35,440 Minnesota the book 63 documents that 1218 00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:37,660 it doesn't want you to read we have 1219 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:40,180 listener questions coming up I'm Jean 1220 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:42,010 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 1221 00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:51,280 you're in the para cast hi Ted Anderson 1222 00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:52,990 announcing a great way to listen to 1223 00:51:57,839 --> 00:51:55,569 radio on the telephone by calling seven 1224 00:51:59,550 --> 00:51:57,849 six oh five 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00:53:38,260 --> 00:53:35,930 our listeners in the podcast forms at 1267 00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,270 forum dot para cast outcome you want to 1268 00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:40,640 address some of those sure I'm just 1269 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:41,990 looking through here real quick we do 1270 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:44,690 have quite a number of something out 1271 00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:46,730 here real quick you may well I'm gonna 1272 00:53:50,830 --> 00:53:48,800 doing here go ahead I want everyone to 1273 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:50,840 know that's listening that believe it or 1274 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:53,330 not today is the day that I start my own 1275 00:54:01,650 --> 00:53:56,570 website and anybody that wants to go to 1276 00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:01,660 my website it's www-we time to plead 1277 00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:04,760 calm and that is an official Jesse 1278 00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:06,920 Ventura website where I will be 1279 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:09,200 contributing it to it probably weekly or 1280 00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,570 whatever and it's the way people can 1281 00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:14,000 probably directly communicate with me or 1282 00:54:29,380 --> 00:54:26,920 www.titanpoker.com where we see your 1283 00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:29,390 name I will embed a link to that site so 1284 00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,060 the way to go there we ain't got time to 1285 00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:34,480 bleed calm that's all you gotta put down 1286 00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,660 absolutely 1287 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:37,760 okay Chris you got the first question I 1288 00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:40,130 do and it's from one of our posters at 1289 00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,550 the forum para cast calm blowfish asked 1290 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:45,680 you governor first of all he says thanks 1291 00:54:49,950 --> 00:54:47,210 for your service and what are your 1292 00:54:53,530 --> 00:54:49,960 thoughts on the current Libyan crisis 1293 00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:53,540 well you know unfortunately I live in 1294 00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,030 Mexico and I live off the grid and I 1295 00:54:59,560 --> 00:54:58,160 live on hours and pavement in an hour 1296 00:55:02,170 --> 00:54:59,570 from electricity 1297 00:55:04,450 --> 00:55:02,180 it took me five days to find out there 1298 00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:04,460 was an earthquake in Japan and it took 1299 00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:06,470 me five days that to find out we were 1300 00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:07,960 now at war and 1301 00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:10,180 Libby is kind of a double-edged sword 1302 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:13,180 it's kind of damned if you do damned if 1303 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:15,400 you don't because you certainly don't 1304 00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:18,250 want to see some genocide where Qaddafi 1305 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:20,740 just destroys and kills all these people 1306 00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:23,050 and commits murder across this country 1307 00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:26,470 just to continue on as a dictator and I 1308 00:55:31,350 --> 00:55:28,990 can understand but it needs to require 1309 00:55:33,450 --> 00:55:31,360 the world community to come in and 1310 00:55:36,060 --> 00:55:33,460 handle it not the United States 1311 00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:36,070 necessarily we already got two wars 1312 00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:38,790 let's let somebody else fight this one 1313 00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:42,520 but I can understand the problem because 1314 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:44,590 it's as I said damned if you do damned 1315 00:55:47,820 --> 00:55:46,530 if they don't it's a no-win situation 1316 00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:47,830 really 1317 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:50,910 and unfortunately that it's that way 1318 00:55:55,470 --> 00:55:53,710 rock and a hard place you know part of 1319 00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:55,480 the problem also is people are saying 1320 00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:57,910 well Obama is a pacifist he's a coward 1321 00:56:01,740 --> 00:55:59,920 he's afraid to go to war of course he 1322 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:01,750 also increased our involvement in 1323 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:05,920 Afghanistan so there you go well you 1324 00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:08,170 know the whole thing is what what do you 1325 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:11,710 do about you know Libya clearly we have 1326 00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:13,810 an interest in the interest of oil 1327 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:16,780 you know Libya's got a lot of oil and so 1328 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:18,010 there you know that's why we'll 1329 00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:20,530 intervene there and we didn't in Rwanda 1330 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:22,630 this poor low one that didn't have 1331 00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:24,970 anything that corporate America needed 1332 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:28,840 and so you had the you know horrible you 1333 00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:30,810 know genocide that took place in Rwanda 1334 00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:33,880 you know a decade ago and you certainly 1335 00:56:37,650 --> 00:56:35,440 wouldn't want to see that happen again 1336 00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:37,660 but then again you also have to 1337 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:41,110 understand to me democracy has to come 1338 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:43,450 from internally within a country you 1339 00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:45,550 can't give a country democracy at the 1340 00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,550 point of a gunman so it's ultimately the 1341 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:51,040 Libyan people that do have to rise up 1342 00:56:55,610 --> 00:56:53,710 and overthrow Qaddafi you know 1343 00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:55,620 ultimately it's in their hands I think 1344 00:57:02,160 --> 00:56:58,960 you know it's it's rocking a hard place 1345 00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:02,170 and I'll tell you I think Barack Obama 1346 00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:04,510 will be the first Nobel Priest Peace 1347 00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,030 Prize winner that's actually put put his 1348 00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:10,000 finger on Empire 200 cooze missiles but 1349 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:11,230 moving right along 1350 00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:14,410 governor what are your thoughts on the 1351 00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,819 USA Today regarding border control 1352 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:19,680 and current threats from transnational 1353 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:21,930 terrorism and as some might suggest 1354 00:57:28,189 --> 00:57:24,410 links with drug cartels 1355 00:57:32,529 --> 00:57:28,199 well I'm biased because I live in Mexico 1356 00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:32,539 so I take the side of the Mexicans to me 1357 00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,249 you know let's remember borders are only 1358 00:57:41,420 --> 00:57:38,880 man-made things were all humans and the 1359 00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,430 most profound sign I saw when there were 1360 00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,680 protests and that was a sign I'll always 1361 00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:46,319 remember it it said the pilgrims didn't 1362 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:00,180 have visas let me continue in in the 1363 00:58:06,890 --> 00:58:03,599 border situation do people realize that 1364 00:58:09,650 --> 00:58:06,900 if we stop all the illegal workers from 1365 00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:09,660 coming into our country let's say we put 1366 00:58:14,650 --> 00:58:11,729 the wall up we move the military down 1367 00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:14,660 there and no undocumented undocumented 1368 00:58:20,380 --> 00:58:16,920 Mexicans can come across the border 1369 00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:20,390 right do you realize that the entire 1370 00:58:27,469 --> 00:58:23,249 agricultural economy of California will 1371 00:58:29,479 --> 00:58:27,479 collapse will the economy of Mexico now 1372 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:29,489 why would we want us collapse to 1373 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:32,640 economies over something as silly as 1374 00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:35,930 people coming up here hopefully to work 1375 00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:39,119 if you're gonna stop them don't hire 1376 00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:42,390 them you know it alternately lies with 1377 00:58:47,299 --> 00:58:45,209 us if an undocumented worker comes up 1378 00:58:49,489 --> 00:58:47,309 here and doesn't get hired to do 1379 00:58:51,769 --> 00:58:49,499 anything well he's gonna go back home 1380 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:51,779 then isn't he yes where are the ones 1381 00:58:57,439 --> 00:58:54,690 that hire these people and so if they're 1382 00:58:59,839 --> 00:58:57,449 going to penalize someone penalize the 1383 00:59:02,180 --> 00:58:59,849 United States people that hire them but 1384 00:59:04,729 --> 00:59:02,190 then of course many of them are United 1385 00:59:07,279 --> 00:59:04,739 States corporations and we would 1386 00:59:09,529 --> 00:59:07,289 actually be hurting corporate America 1387 00:59:16,689 --> 00:59:09,539 then and after all they do run our 1388 00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:16,699 country don't pay okay I have another 1389 00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:19,529 whole bunch of questions from exo doc 1390 00:59:24,019 --> 00:59:21,660 who's again one of our posters at the 1391 00:59:27,469 --> 00:59:24,029 para caste forums let me let me add one 1392 00:59:29,989 --> 00:59:27,479 other thing 205 million immigration just 1393 00:59:30,860 --> 00:59:29,999 say hypothetically we built a 20-foot 1394 00:59:32,660 --> 00:59:30,870 wall 1395 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:32,670 across the whole southern United States 1396 00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:35,250 like they're trying to do pretty much 1397 00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:37,710 right I guarantee in a day I'll find 1398 00:59:46,730 --> 00:59:43,590 someone with a 21 foot ladder yeah well 1399 00:59:48,620 --> 00:59:46,740 we have to remember why the the state of 1400 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:48,630 New Mexico was formed you know initially 1401 00:59:54,290 --> 00:59:52,170 was to supply a place for displaced 1402 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:54,300 Mexicans to live in the United States 1403 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:55,770 where they'd always lived for 1404 01:00:01,580 --> 00:59:58,410 generations until the political you know 1405 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:01,590 political borders have been changed and 1406 01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:03,810 this is not a problem that's gonna go 1407 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:07,200 away by any stretch of the imagination I 1408 01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:08,490 think we're just really seeing the 1409 01:00:13,310 --> 01:00:11,460 beginnings of of a major issue living 1410 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:13,320 here as Jean and I do in Arizona this is 1411 01:00:18,860 --> 01:00:15,450 a real hot-button issue and we deal with 1412 01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:18,870 it pretty pretty regularly every day you 1413 01:00:24,770 --> 01:00:22,740 know in our media here no III drive to 1414 01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:24,780 Mexico every year there and dappin it's 1415 01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:27,270 in Arizona that I see my Constitution 1416 01:00:31,250 --> 01:00:29,040 violated every time you know what it is 1417 01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:31,260 whenever I cross the border coming back 1418 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:33,510 in the US I have to show my passport to 1419 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:35,370 get in the country and then you drive 1420 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:37,050 for an hour and a half on the highway 1421 01:00:41,810 --> 01:00:39,570 and you come up to an immigration stop 1422 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:41,820 where you have to wait another hour and 1423 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:44,610 a half to continue traveling and I told 1424 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:46,650 my wife says well I guess we better pull 1425 01:00:51,290 --> 01:00:48,930 our passports out again I said don't you 1426 01:00:54,020 --> 01:00:51,300 dare I said we're in the United States 1427 01:00:56,180 --> 01:00:54,030 it's against the Constitution for them 1428 01:00:58,340 --> 01:00:56,190 to ask me to prove my citizenship 1429 01:01:00,920 --> 01:00:58,350 I said now if a police officer asked me 1430 01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:00,930 for my driver's license that's fine but 1431 01:01:04,670 --> 01:01:03,150 I said they and so when I finally got up 1432 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:04,680 there after waiting an hour and a half 1433 01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:07,590 in Arizona on the highway I kept my 1434 01:01:11,870 --> 01:01:09,510 window up and the immigration guy came 1435 01:01:13,850 --> 01:01:11,880 over and knocked on my window before he 1436 01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:13,860 could say anything I rolled my window 1437 01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:15,540 down and I looked him right in the eye 1438 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:18,000 and I said I'm not showing you anything 1439 01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:19,410 you know what he did 1440 01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:21,900 he just waved me through do you think he 1441 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:24,240 recognized you I don't know but you know 1442 01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:26,010 what I'm gonna do this year this year 1443 01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:30,000 I'm gonna get a black wig yeah I wait I 1444 01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:32,400 get extremely Sun can when I'm down 1445 01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:35,070 there so I get as dark as a Mexican I'm 1446 01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:37,470 gonna put a pair of sunglasses on so he 1447 01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:39,960 can't see my blue eyes and when I pull 1448 01:01:47,470 --> 01:01:40,880 up and roll down 1449 01:01:49,420 --> 01:01:47,480 window I'm gonna go no English at that 1450 01:01:52,509 --> 01:01:49,430 point I'm gonna pull out my governor's 1451 01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:52,519 ID pull my wig off and say you were 1452 01:01:58,660 --> 01:01:54,559 racially profiling that's against the 1453 01:02:00,819 --> 01:01:58,670 law well next time you're up in Arizona 1454 01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:00,829 though you're welcome by the way if you 1455 01:02:05,799 --> 01:02:02,569 get to Phoenix you're scottsdale you're 1456 01:02:08,140 --> 01:02:05,809 definitely welcome for lunch well as you 1457 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:08,150 can tell I follow what Thomas Jefferson 1458 01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:10,250 said and you know what that is he said a 1459 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:12,559 lot of things ascension is the greatest 1460 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:14,930 form of patriotism yeah and if you don't 1461 01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:16,130 like your government tear it down and 1462 01:02:20,019 --> 01:02:18,559 start over again well some people in the 1463 01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:20,029 government don't want after that of 1464 01:02:24,249 --> 01:02:21,710 course is there up and we have lots more 1465 01:02:25,690 --> 01:02:24,259 questions by the way folks and I think 1466 01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:25,700 we can almost do a show with just 1467 01:02:28,839 --> 01:02:27,049 questions because there's so much 1468 01:02:32,170 --> 01:02:28,849 fascinating information that governor 1469 01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:32,180 Ventura has the book is called 63 1470 01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:33,740 documents the government doesn't want 1471 01:02:37,299 --> 01:02:35,119 you to read and you're getting a hint it 1472 01:02:39,279 --> 01:02:37,309 as the things 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David berry has 1502 01:03:55,770 --> 01:03:53,740 provided excellent advice for all those 1503 01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:55,780 interested in practical economics and 1504 01:04:00,180 --> 01:03:58,450 sound money it's certainly worth reading 1505 01:04:02,850 --> 01:04:00,190 that's what congressman Ron Paul said 1506 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:02,860 about cha-ching wisdom 123 practical 1507 01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:04,750 universal truths about money the new 1508 01:04:08,490 --> 01:04:07,180 book by dr. David berry the cool part of 1509 01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:08,500 this book certainly it'll speak to you 1510 01:04:12,510 --> 01:04:10,510 personally your life your lifestyle your 1511 01:04:14,670 --> 01:04:12,520 money your investments but it also can 1512 01:04:16,170 --> 01:04:14,680 be generalized into the nation what's 1513 01:04:18,030 --> 01:04:16,180 going on as a nation we do these same 1514 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:18,040 things personally that we do as a nation 1515 01:04:21,690 --> 01:04:20,050 dr. 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on the book tour so 1581 01:07:26,050 --> 01:07:23,990 right now probably his hand is aching 1582 01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:26,060 with the telephone and we're happy to 1583 01:07:30,790 --> 01:07:28,550 have him on and listening we have all 1584 01:07:32,530 --> 01:07:30,800 these questions from our audience Chris 1585 01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:32,540 go ahead please let's lighten it up here 1586 01:07:36,550 --> 01:07:34,310 a little bit this is from pixel Smith 1587 01:07:38,860 --> 01:07:36,560 one of our longtime posters here at the 1588 01:07:40,090 --> 01:07:38,870 para cast and he wants to know dude do 1589 01:07:42,670 --> 01:07:40,100 you ever get up to your family cabin 1590 01:07:44,050 --> 01:07:42,680 much anymore and if you met your wife at 1591 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:44,060 one of the peace rallies you used to 1592 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:48,290 attend no I did not meet my wife at a 1593 01:07:55,210 --> 01:07:53,330 peace rally actually no I don't get up 1594 01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:55,220 to my parents cabin much anymore in 1595 01:08:00,190 --> 01:07:58,400 Minnesota I do still own it but I've 1596 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:00,200 kind of turned it over to my son-in-law 1597 01:08:05,530 --> 01:08:03,170 and my daughter so it's third generation 1598 01:08:08,050 --> 01:08:05,540 now they go up there every weekend in 1599 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:08,060 the summer but I live on the lake now in 1600 01:08:12,610 --> 01:08:10,370 Minnesota so I don't need to go to that 1601 01:08:14,170 --> 01:08:12,620 tab and not my son and son-in-law and my 1602 01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:14,180 daughter go up there every weekend 1603 01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,830 during the summer it's kind of their 1604 01:08:19,450 --> 01:08:17,600 place now okay here's another question 1605 01:08:21,490 --> 01:08:19,460 from pixel Smith and going through your 1606 01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:21,500 bio I you know doing a little bit of 1607 01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,450 research on your background I didn't 1608 01:08:28,570 --> 01:08:25,520 know that you were actually a Mongol 1609 01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,580 that you were a a color wearing Mongol 1610 01:08:32,170 --> 01:08:30,560 in the question is how long were you a 1611 01:08:36,460 --> 01:08:32,180 Mongol and do you still have your colors 1612 01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:36,470 in your Harley I became a full patch 1613 01:08:41,890 --> 01:08:39,440 Mongol when I was just getting out of 1614 01:08:43,780 --> 01:08:41,900 the United States Navy in fact I had a 1615 01:08:45,849 --> 01:08:43,790 couple months to go I used to leave the 1616 01:08:48,010 --> 01:08:45,859 base and put my collars on you know I 1617 01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:48,020 had already had two tours overseas they 1618 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:49,670 knew I was getting out so they didn't 1619 01:08:54,490 --> 01:08:51,710 really bother with it I didn't ride with 1620 01:08:56,410 --> 01:08:54,500 the Mongols very long because I wanted 1621 01:08:58,030 --> 01:08:56,420 to attempt to go play professional 1622 01:08:59,710 --> 01:08:58,040 football later and I knew had to go to 1623 01:09:01,450 --> 01:08:59,720 college but of course I didn't go into 1624 01:09:03,550 --> 01:09:01,460 football I eventually went into pro 1625 01:09:05,260 --> 01:09:03,560 wrestling but I did rise to 1626 01:09:08,410 --> 01:09:05,270 sergeant-at-arms of the South Bay 1627 01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,420 chapter when I won governor a few of the 1628 01:09:13,150 --> 01:09:10,400 Mongols actually contacted me to 1629 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:13,160 congratulate in the years later and yes 1630 01:09:16,269 --> 01:09:14,449 I do still have my 1631 01:09:18,129 --> 01:09:16,279 dollars because that's up to your 1632 01:09:20,769 --> 01:09:18,139 president and the president at the time 1633 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:20,779 of my chapter was James Batman Rivera 1634 01:09:24,849 --> 01:09:22,489 and when I left 1635 01:09:27,009 --> 01:09:24,859 fat man told me urine those colors keep 1636 01:09:29,739 --> 01:09:27,019 them and so yes I do still have my 1637 01:09:32,410 --> 01:09:29,749 colors and in fact a funny story when I 1638 01:09:34,569 --> 01:09:32,420 got out of office as governor I was so 1639 01:09:37,029 --> 01:09:34,579 well recognized and all that that I 1640 01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:37,039 didn't want to be so I grew the beard 1641 01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:39,409 when I taught at Harvard and then I had 1642 01:09:42,939 --> 01:09:40,909 it shaved down to where it looked like 1643 01:09:45,099 --> 01:09:42,949 Johnny Depp with Captain Jack Sparrow 1644 01:09:47,289 --> 01:09:45,109 you know with the beads in it and all 1645 01:09:49,419 --> 01:09:47,299 that and then I went down and I had them 1646 01:09:51,549 --> 01:09:49,429 put dreadlocks in my hair all the way to 1647 01:09:53,469 --> 01:09:51,559 my shoulders so I had shoulder length 1648 01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:53,479 dreadlocks and I would ride around 1649 01:10:00,100 --> 01:09:57,110 Minnesota flying my colors on my 1650 01:10:02,469 --> 01:10:00,110 bike and nobody knew that if there goes 1651 01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:02,479 the governor the only way that you'll 1652 01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:05,510 know is on my life now my license plate 1653 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:09,920 says 3/8 - POV because I'm the 38th 1654 01:10:14,919 --> 01:10:12,530 governor of Minnesota now sat on my 1655 01:10:17,739 --> 01:10:14,929 license plate so the one I do fly my 1656 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:17,749 colors that the cops will know that it's 1657 01:10:24,939 --> 01:10:20,650 just the governor don't worry about it 1658 01:10:26,799 --> 01:10:24,949 but know I'm still a I'm not an active 1659 01:10:29,649 --> 01:10:26,809 member I haven't been for many many 1660 01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:29,659 years but I did run in I was out in LA 1661 01:10:35,949 --> 01:10:33,409 and I ran into a geo of the Hollywood 1662 01:10:38,259 --> 01:10:35,959 chap who I just met a young guy and I 1663 01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:38,269 basically told him that I still fly my 1664 01:10:41,620 --> 01:10:39,920 colors occasionally and he said don't 1665 01:10:43,509 --> 01:10:41,630 worry about it your mom will fly them 1666 01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,519 anywhere you want I think I'm still 1667 01:10:47,229 --> 01:10:45,199 would be treated in good standing by the 1668 01:10:48,699 --> 01:10:47,239 club they've gotten pretty it's been 1669 01:10:50,859 --> 01:10:48,709 pretty rough since the war with the 1670 01:10:53,109 --> 01:10:50,869 Hells Angels apparently yeah 1671 01:10:55,330 --> 01:10:53,119 and but there's such a renewed interest 1672 01:10:57,069 --> 01:10:55,340 now of course everybody you know when 1673 01:10:58,719 --> 01:10:57,079 they get to get to that certain age 1674 01:11:00,129 --> 01:10:58,729 instead of getting a red sports car it 1675 01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:00,139 seems like everybody's getting Harley's 1676 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:03,679 now so well I have a bike again but 1677 01:11:09,250 --> 01:11:06,170 unfortunately it's not a Harley it's a 1678 01:11:11,709 --> 01:11:09,260 custom chopper I have an S&S engine 1679 01:11:11,709 --> 01:11:12,310 rolling thunder' frame Revtech six 1680 01:11:17,589 --> 01:11:14,770 Arlen Ness front end in primary and 1681 01:11:19,979 --> 01:11:17,599 Kuryakin gears and all that stuff it's a 1682 01:11:24,129 --> 01:11:19,989 beautiful machine it's worth about 1683 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:24,139 $45,000 I had one fascinating motorcycle 1684 01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:25,650 ride in my life Oh 1685 01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,800 the Brooklyn Bridge with some speed you 1686 01:11:32,510 --> 01:11:30,000 couldn't imagine he must have been going 1687 01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:32,520 6070 miles an hour so it felt you know a 1688 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:34,380 little bit you know awkward I wasn't 1689 01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:35,970 used to motorcycles but that's just me 1690 01:11:39,620 --> 01:11:38,070 Chris you got more questions I know that 1691 01:11:42,110 --> 01:11:39,630 well you kind of touched on this a 1692 01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:42,120 little bit governor but XO doc one of 1693 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:44,760 our posters has four questions here the 1694 01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:46,970 first one is what got you interested in 1695 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:49,230 conspiracies to begin with and you kind 1696 01:11:52,910 --> 01:11:51,450 of kind of touched on it but other than 1697 01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:52,920 the Kennedy assassination 1698 01:11:57,380 --> 01:11:55,710 what other early conspiracies really 1699 01:12:00,590 --> 01:11:57,390 piqued your interest and got you 1700 01:12:03,260 --> 01:12:00,600 involved in becoming as up to speed and 1701 01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,270 and doing the research that that few 1702 01:12:07,610 --> 01:12:05,520 people do like you yeah well naturally 1703 01:12:09,260 --> 01:12:07,620 was Kennedy you know I I was flying 1704 01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:09,270 around doing all the wrestling and I'd 1705 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:10,980 read anything I could on the murder of 1706 01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:12,810 Jack Kennedy and then of course dad 1707 01:12:17,150 --> 01:12:15,030 opened the door to start studying Robert 1708 01:12:19,250 --> 01:12:17,160 Kennedy's murder a little bit more so I 1709 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:19,260 started reading more on Roberts murder 1710 01:12:24,860 --> 01:12:21,690 and then the thing that really got me 1711 01:12:27,620 --> 01:12:24,870 the worst was in 2004 when I was 1712 01:12:30,050 --> 01:12:27,630 teaching at Harvard and McNamara came 1713 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:30,060 through and was touring right before he 1714 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:32,610 died explaining that the Gulf of Tonkin 1715 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:34,770 incident never happened that it was a 1716 01:12:39,170 --> 01:12:37,170 false flag operation and that's what 1717 01:12:41,060 --> 01:12:39,180 really blew me up on this I said that's 1718 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:41,070 it I've had enough of my government 1719 01:12:45,530 --> 01:12:43,410 lying to me I've had enough of them 1720 01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:45,540 lying and causing people to die and 1721 01:12:50,270 --> 01:12:47,760 that's what really focused me on going 1722 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:50,280 after these so-called conspiracies or 1723 01:12:54,590 --> 01:12:52,170 whatever they are and if you notice you 1724 01:12:57,170 --> 01:12:54,600 know the government does nothing but has 1725 01:12:58,970 --> 01:12:57,180 a conspiracy theory take 9/11 for 1726 01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:58,980 instance oh yeah 1727 01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:01,440 evidence if they ever shown us that 1728 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:04,020 Osama bin Laden did it oh boy we have 1729 01:13:09,950 --> 01:13:06,810 such a thread of discussions in our 1730 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:09,960 forums life yes wait for a moment 1731 01:13:13,970 --> 01:13:12,180 take your time why haven't they indicted 1732 01:13:16,940 --> 01:13:13,980 why isn't he on the ten most wanted list 1733 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:16,950 of the FBI exactly well I know why 1734 01:13:21,230 --> 01:13:19,050 because off the record the FBI said that 1735 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:21,240 we don't have enough evidence therefore 1736 01:13:26,420 --> 01:13:23,910 we attacked Afghanistan we did all this 1737 01:13:28,130 --> 01:13:26,430 stuff but we have no evidence well we 1738 01:13:30,290 --> 01:13:28,140 don't have enough that's what tells you 1739 01:13:33,170 --> 01:13:30,300 that 9/11 was clearly a false flag 1740 01:13:35,090 --> 01:13:33,180 operation sure but we do know that 9/11 1741 01:13:37,940 --> 01:13:35,100 occurred so what really happened 1742 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:37,950 uh well planes got flown into buildings 1743 01:13:40,770 --> 01:13:38,890 something flew in 1744 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:40,780 the Pentagon and something crashed in 1745 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:43,450 Pennsylvania you know but I'm trying to 1746 01:13:47,580 --> 01:13:45,730 figure out you know I've spoken to 1747 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:47,590 people who survived at the Twin Towers 1748 01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:50,170 and I've spoken to people that survived 1749 01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:52,660 the Pentagon in fact the girl April 1750 01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:55,270 Gallo was right in the room where the 1751 01:14:00,180 --> 01:13:57,510 alleged plane hit and she actually 1752 01:14:02,820 --> 01:14:00,190 stumbled out the hole that it created 1753 01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:02,830 the government locked her up for 48 1754 01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:04,870 hours and wouldn't let her to see anyone 1755 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:07,270 because she except there was no plane 1756 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:09,370 she said there was no luggage there were 1757 01:14:13,620 --> 01:14:11,770 no seats she saw nothing that indicated 1758 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:13,630 a plane hit the Pentagon well of course 1759 01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,250 the government didn't want her out 1760 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:17,440 telling the world that you know and and 1761 01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:19,330 so well there you got it 1762 01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:21,070 why haven't they released all those 1763 01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:24,070 security camera clips that there was 1764 01:14:28,710 --> 01:14:27,160 several dozen from all angles and why 1765 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:28,720 haven't they released those security 1766 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:31,210 camera clips here's the better question 1767 01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:32,650 in light of all of us that are 1768 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:35,760 questioning it release it to shut us off 1769 01:14:41,090 --> 01:14:38,530 before we go on are there any other 9/11 1770 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:41,100 questions to pursue can we collect any 1771 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:43,690 well there's yeah that gets into a whole 1772 01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:45,970 whole ball of wax of course the the 1773 01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:48,490 major overriding question that's on a 1774 01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:50,080 current thread right now of course we 1775 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:53,200 are recording this show April 1st and on 1776 01:14:57,930 --> 01:14:55,690 the forum the Peres cast calm as a 1777 01:15:00,660 --> 01:14:57,940 thread on will Trade Center building 1778 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:00,670 number seven which I have always 1779 01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:04,510 maintained is the biggest crucial clue 1780 01:15:09,780 --> 01:15:07,360 that we have that the official 1781 01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:09,790 government theory or conspiracy theory 1782 01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:12,640 if you will does not hold water what do 1783 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:14,800 you think about World Trade Center 1784 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:17,050 number seven and I'm sure you've done 1785 01:15:20,610 --> 01:15:19,210 quite a bit of looking into that in 1786 01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:20,620 terms of a structural integrity of the 1787 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:22,630 building how it came down the fact that 1788 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:24,370 the building was not struck by an 1789 01:15:28,590 --> 01:15:26,050 airplane why don't you just kind of lead 1790 01:15:32,370 --> 01:15:28,600 us through your particular research that 1791 01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:32,380 you've done and and let's address WTC 1792 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:34,750 number seven before we do that governor 1793 01:15:39,330 --> 01:15:36,730 Ventura let's just do this very quickly 1794 01:15:41,250 --> 01:15:39,340 Jesse Ventura joining us I'm gene 1795 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:41,260 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 1796 01:15:52,620 --> 01:15:49,220 [Music] 1797 01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:52,630 Ray Perkins a reclusive veteran burned 1798 01:15:57,620 --> 01:15:55,329 out from the Gulf War lives tortured by 1799 01:15:59,970 --> 01:15:57,630 relentless perplexing nightmares 1800 01:16:01,919 --> 01:15:59,980 nightmares of a horrific battle in deep 1801 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1897 01:20:24,669 --> 01:20:21,770 the government doesn't want you to read 1898 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:24,679 and the question on the table World 1899 01:20:29,169 --> 01:20:26,690 Trade Center number seven and then I'll 1900 01:20:32,290 --> 01:20:29,179 tell you my weird experience in the 1901 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:32,300 World Trade Center six weeks before this 1902 01:20:39,010 --> 01:20:35,330 happened governor okay if you go to my 1903 01:20:42,669 --> 01:20:39,020 book and you go to document 47 the 1904 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:42,679 freefall of building 7 in that document 1905 01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:44,810 NIST in their official thing that came 1906 01:20:52,629 --> 01:20:48,800 out in 2008 said that there was between 1907 01:20:55,209 --> 01:20:52,639 like 10 or 12 or 15 and the floors and 1908 01:20:58,990 --> 01:20:55,219 their official thing they said the 1909 01:21:00,820 --> 01:20:59,000 building fell in total free fall now to 1910 01:21:02,979 --> 01:21:00,830 not believe that that building was 1911 01:21:06,189 --> 01:21:02,989 demoed and brought down as ridiculous 1912 01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:06,199 because what they're saying there well 1913 01:21:10,180 --> 01:21:08,480 if they say that it it wasn't demoed 1914 01:21:12,939 --> 01:21:10,190 then they're defying the laws of 1915 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:12,949 Newton's laws of physics because when 1916 01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:16,250 one object a moving object hits one 1917 01:21:21,310 --> 01:21:19,280 that's not moving they slow down this 1918 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:21,320 building cell and then went into a 1919 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:22,489 complete freefall 1920 01:21:27,970 --> 01:21:25,130 the only way that you can have a 1921 01:21:31,330 --> 01:21:27,980 complete freefall is to remove all 1922 01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:31,340 resistance so right in their own 1923 01:21:36,250 --> 01:21:34,190 documents they're admitting that the 1924 01:21:39,399 --> 01:21:36,260 building came down with assistance 1925 01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:39,409 because it had to or it defies Newton's 1926 01:21:44,859 --> 01:21:42,320 laws of physics and you can't defy the 1927 01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:44,869 laws of physics well of course one of 1928 01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,110 the questions that the you know the the 1929 01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:50,480 more conservative some people who don't 1930 01:21:56,350 --> 01:21:52,369 want to look at all the facts I think in 1931 01:21:58,419 --> 01:21:56,360 this particular tragic tragic scenario 1932 01:22:00,959 --> 01:21:58,429 in American history one of the main 1933 01:22:04,209 --> 01:22:00,969 things that they point out is that that 1934 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:04,219 the building did have damage ten floor 1935 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:07,850 gash on it and and that you know that 1936 01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:09,290 was enough to bring the building down 1937 01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:12,110 but but I'm sure structural engineers 1938 01:22:15,790 --> 01:22:13,520 have come forward and said well why 1939 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:15,800 didn't the building fall sideways if 1940 01:22:20,050 --> 01:22:17,449 that was the case if there was damage on 1941 01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:20,060 one side how come it came down virtually 1942 01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:22,150 in its own footprint 1943 01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:25,030 and that would be one thing well there's 1944 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:27,070 another thing 200 you learn on the 1945 01:22:33,210 --> 01:22:29,890 regular buildings let me throw this here 1946 01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:33,220 if those buildings were likewise brought 1947 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:35,110 down in the system because if you look 1948 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:38,290 at them how could the concrete be 1949 01:22:44,370 --> 01:22:41,530 powdered if that building collapsed it 1950 01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:44,380 would come down and big chunks and yet 1951 01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:47,440 everything was blowing so bad it was all 1952 01:22:53,250 --> 01:22:51,040 blowing the dust what type of energy 1953 01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:53,260 force does it take well I'll tell you 1954 01:23:00,810 --> 01:22:58,210 nano thermite right well under these 1955 01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:00,820 blows if and it's put on like paint you 1956 01:23:05,850 --> 01:23:03,310 painted on now I enjoy using explosive 1957 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:05,860 when it dries no governor have you heard 1958 01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:08,170 the the theory that's been bantered 1959 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:10,120 about that the World Trade Center was 1960 01:23:15,660 --> 01:23:12,810 designed and built with demolition 1961 01:23:17,310 --> 01:23:15,670 capabilities from the get-go from the 1962 01:23:18,570 --> 01:23:17,320 very construction process knowing that 1963 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:18,580 they would have to bring those buildings 1964 01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:19,810 down at some point that they were 1965 01:23:24,660 --> 01:23:21,760 actually designed and built with those 1966 01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:24,670 types of capabilities in place have you 1967 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:29,670 ever heard that if that's the case in 1968 01:23:34,890 --> 01:23:32,650 the amount of time and effort and energy 1969 01:23:37,050 --> 01:23:34,900 and cost it would take to actually wire 1970 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:37,060 a building for demolition it would take 1971 01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,610 a minimum of two weeks to do that now I 1972 01:23:45,090 --> 01:23:41,920 do have wait a minute wait a minute now 1973 01:23:47,330 --> 01:23:45,100 okay struck construction was a daily 1974 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:47,340 occurrence at the World Trade Centers 1975 01:23:51,930 --> 01:23:50,050 William Rodriguez the janitor told me 1976 01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:51,940 that he said construction was a 1977 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:54,070 continuous thing there because as 1978 01:23:58,440 --> 01:23:56,890 tenants would move out new before new 1979 01:23:59,100 --> 01:23:58,450 ones would come in they'd redo 1980 01:24:02,700 --> 01:23:59,110 everything 1981 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:02,710 now with nano-thermite all you've got to 1982 01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:06,610 do is bring in a paint crew and say here 1983 01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:09,310 paint the building because it comes in 1984 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:11,950 buckets and it's put on with brushes so 1985 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:14,290 you could have a paint crew not even 1986 01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:16,210 knowing that they're putting a high 1987 01:24:25,770 --> 01:24:20,350 explosive on the law because it doesn't 1988 01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:25,780 become an explosive pella dries Wow so 1989 01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:27,910 that's how simple it could be done and 1990 01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:30,640 not only that you might say how would 1991 01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:32,380 you get everything in the building all 1992 01:24:35,770 --> 01:24:34,960 you have to do is masquerade as a UPS 1993 01:24:37,540 --> 01:24:35,780 draw 1994 01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:37,550 pull up down below to the loading dock 1995 01:24:41,859 --> 01:24:39,710 and they'll let you go anywhere in the 1996 01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:41,869 building to deliver whatever security 1997 01:24:47,649 --> 01:24:44,510 wasn't so good in those days absolutely 1998 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:47,659 not the William Rodriguez the janitor 1999 01:24:52,510 --> 01:24:50,090 told me that he said that all you'd have 2000 01:24:54,729 --> 01:24:52,520 to do is be the UPS guy you could get it 2001 01:24:57,090 --> 01:24:54,739 come in with boxes or whatever you'd get 2002 01:25:00,160 --> 01:24:57,100 anywhere you want tell me that night 2003 01:25:01,689 --> 01:25:00,170 just to be maybe a little sarcastic here 2004 01:25:06,910 --> 01:25:01,699 should we believe though what the 2005 01:25:10,750 --> 01:25:06,920 janitor says he's a hero you know his 2006 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:10,760 story essentially yes William Rodriguez 2007 01:25:14,919 --> 01:25:12,530 got out of the building and had old the 2008 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:14,929 only key that would unlock it would 2009 01:25:20,109 --> 01:25:17,330 unlock the building and bring people in 2010 01:25:22,419 --> 01:25:20,119 and he went back in with the first 2011 01:25:24,490 --> 01:25:22,429 responders unlocking the floors so they 2012 01:25:26,859 --> 01:25:24,500 could go in there he's considered the 2013 01:25:29,470 --> 01:25:26,869 last man up when William told me his 2014 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:29,480 story I told him William I believe you 2015 01:25:33,490 --> 01:25:32,090 but this is so powerful you have to get 2016 01:25:35,709 --> 01:25:33,500 someone to collaborate what you're 2017 01:25:38,590 --> 01:25:35,719 saying he did he brought me his boss 2018 01:25:41,020 --> 01:25:38,600 Anthony who told me the identical story 2019 01:25:43,510 --> 01:25:41,030 up to the point of going back in with 2020 01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:43,520 the first responders because his boss 2021 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:47,510 Anthony did not go back in we have any 2022 01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:50,210 more questions about 911 before we move 2023 01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,400 on yes it's more of a rather sarcastic 2024 01:26:02,890 --> 01:26:00,560 comment this is again from hazel Smith 2025 01:26:04,810 --> 01:26:02,900 the greatest thing that came out of 9/11 2026 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:04,820 was discovering that expensive 2027 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:07,010 demolition squads are no longer needed 2028 01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:08,690 to take down a high-rise building in a 2029 01:26:13,689 --> 01:26:11,900 big city simply start a couple of small 2030 01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:13,699 office fires and wait a couple of hours 2031 01:26:18,250 --> 01:26:16,400 the structure will polarize itself cut 2032 01:26:20,109 --> 01:26:18,260 its main support beams and fall it in 2033 01:26:22,090 --> 01:26:20,119 your freefall speed neatly into its own 2034 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:22,100 footprint I think that was more of a 2035 01:26:26,979 --> 01:26:24,650 comment rather than a question well yeah 2036 01:26:30,370 --> 01:26:26,989 and I think the person hey I agree 2037 01:26:32,109 --> 01:26:30,380 totally let's see a demonstration what 2038 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:32,119 the next time one of these buildings 2039 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:33,530 that they're going to take down in Las 2040 01:26:39,940 --> 01:26:36,050 Vegas let's simply light it on fire 2041 01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:39,950 first and see if the fire brings it down 2042 01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:42,710 yeah well no Nelly doing guild 2043 01:26:47,630 --> 01:26:45,270 experiment let's just light a building 2044 01:26:49,550 --> 01:26:47,640 on fire and see if it achieve the 2045 01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:49,560 building will uniformly collapse 2046 01:26:55,580 --> 01:26:51,540 I think the person's right on and what 2047 01:26:58,490 --> 01:26:55,590 they said right there if we look at the 2048 01:27:00,500 --> 01:26:58,500 conspiracy for 9/11 again is this the 2049 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:00,510 military-industrial complex doing this 2050 01:27:06,830 --> 01:27:04,890 to start a war I don't know ok I you 2051 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:06,840 know I think there was the policy of the 2052 01:27:11,330 --> 01:27:08,730 Bush administration and what they wanted 2053 01:27:13,850 --> 01:27:11,340 to do because let's remember something 2054 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:13,860 it came clear to me why we're in 2055 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:16,730 Afghanistan you know why we're there 2056 01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:22,050 yeah well because I mean well no no no 2057 01:27:26,290 --> 01:27:23,490 no we're there because it was in the 2058 01:27:29,210 --> 01:27:26,300 paper about six months ago they found 2059 01:27:31,190 --> 01:27:29,220 mineral resources beyond belief there I 2060 01:27:33,170 --> 01:27:31,200 always questioned why the Russians went 2061 01:27:35,710 --> 01:27:33,180 in there in the 80s who ever heard of 2062 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:35,720 Afghanistan but there's mineral 2063 01:27:41,090 --> 01:27:38,130 resources there where they state that 2064 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:41,100 there's a vein of lithium that could be 2065 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:43,770 worth a trillion dollars now what is 2066 01:27:50,090 --> 01:27:46,770 lithium lithium is used in every cell 2067 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:50,100 phone computer and soon to be electric 2068 01:27:55,610 --> 01:27:52,530 cars right so you've got to have lithium 2069 01:27:58,670 --> 01:27:55,620 batteries it's in our iPhone it's in 2070 01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:58,680 your iPad it's in everybody's notebook 2071 01:28:00,500 --> 01:27:59,280 computer 2072 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:00,510 you know I think about every time I 2073 01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:02,490 think about all that stuff in 2074 01:28:08,420 --> 01:28:05,520 Afghanistan I think about the line that 2075 01:28:11,660 --> 01:28:08,430 this act said in the movie True Lies 2076 01:28:15,650 --> 01:28:11,670 with Arnold Schwarzenegger and he is 2077 01:28:18,140 --> 01:28:15,660 being filmed and he says you killed our 2078 01:28:21,530 --> 01:28:18,150 women and our children and you call us 2079 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:21,540 terrorists and you wonder about all the 2080 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:24,330 history in the 80s and 90s that came 2081 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:26,610 back to haunt us and that film I'm sure 2082 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:28,650 that James Cameron was making a 2083 01:28:38,450 --> 01:28:36,350 sure Chris you want to move to another 2084 01:28:41,930 --> 01:28:38,460 topic oh do we still have 911 on the 2085 01:28:47,330 --> 01:28:41,940 agenda you got it what's the next 2086 01:28:51,140 --> 01:28:49,830 while Chris is looking this is to show 2087 01:28:54,150 --> 01:28:51,150 you how we do this show itself 2088 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:54,160 spontaneous and also because we have so 2089 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:55,930 many threads about these various 2090 01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:57,370 discussions that Chris is going to have 2091 01:29:01,979 --> 01:28:59,410 to comb through them all the questions 2092 01:29:04,050 --> 01:29:01,989 and see which ones have been touched 2093 01:29:06,330 --> 01:29:04,060 upon which ones no longer apply which 2094 01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:06,340 ones we can discard and which ones we 2095 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:09,070 can present in the meantime about those 2096 01:29:13,950 --> 01:29:11,650 documents the book is called 63 2097 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:13,960 documents the government doesn't want 2098 01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:17,290 you to read and the author is governor 2099 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:20,080 Jesse Ventura and he's living in Mexico 2100 01:29:24,330 --> 01:29:22,330 now I have to ask about that because 2101 01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:24,340 they hear all these horror stories about 2102 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:27,640 Mexico it's not safe for anybody we've 2103 01:29:32,130 --> 01:29:29,290 told 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today are you tired of 2201 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:53,950 searching for great talk radio more 2202 01:34:00,840 --> 01:33:57,010 important search in overall we are the 2203 01:34:03,690 --> 01:34:00,850 gcn radio network hi this is nuclear 2204 01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:03,700 physicist for tourists and Friedman you 2205 01:34:14,700 --> 01:34:12,400 are listening to the paranormal we are 2206 01:34:16,380 --> 01:34:14,710 back with Governor Jesse Ventura talking 2207 01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:16,390 about conspiracies government and 2208 01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:18,460 otherwise mostly government Chris 2209 01:34:22,710 --> 01:34:20,560 O'Brien's the co-host I'm Jean Steinberg 2210 01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:22,720 on the power cast this week Chris you 2211 01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:24,670 got some more questions I do 2212 01:34:28,980 --> 01:34:26,320 the governor could you tell us what a 2213 01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:28,990 non-issue is and why the government and 2214 01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:32,860 the media love to shout about them what 2215 01:34:43,710 --> 01:34:40,510 a what is a non-issue shows oh that's a 2216 01:34:45,570 --> 01:34:43,720 non-issue I'm not sure you'd have to ask 2217 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:45,580 them I guess it means something that's 2218 01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:48,730 ultimately not important to anyone yeah 2219 01:34:52,860 --> 01:34:50,290 the government the media does love to 2220 01:34:54,230 --> 01:34:52,870 shout shout about them okay I'm just 2221 01:34:56,790 --> 01:34:54,240 reading them as they're coming up here 2222 01:34:58,920 --> 01:34:56,800 what could you tell us what you think 2223 01:35:01,860 --> 01:34:58,930 the most important issue today facing 2224 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:01,870 Americans is um I think the most 2225 01:35:07,890 --> 01:35:05,290 important issue facing America today is 2226 01:35:10,620 --> 01:35:07,900 naturally our economy of getting it 2227 01:35:13,500 --> 01:35:10,630 righted hopefully and restoring the 2228 01:35:16,050 --> 01:35:13,510 middle class see I think it's a direct 2229 01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:16,060 assault to destroy the middle class to 2230 01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:17,920 make the United States like many other 2231 01:35:22,170 --> 01:35:19,840 countries in the world where you only 2232 01:35:24,030 --> 01:35:22,180 have rich and poor and that was always 2233 01:35:26,510 --> 01:35:24,040 the great thing about the United States 2234 01:35:28,980 --> 01:35:26,520 was that you had a solid middle class 2235 01:35:31,890 --> 01:35:28,990 where you know people could live a dream 2236 01:35:34,740 --> 01:35:31,900 and could raise a family own a home and 2237 01:35:37,410 --> 01:35:34,750 do all those things so I think the most 2238 01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:37,420 important issue to the United States is 2239 01:35:43,290 --> 01:35:41,470 to uh is to solidify our economy again 2240 01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:43,300 what's in the future for you and do you 2241 01:35:49,740 --> 01:35:47,040 plan on continuing your conspiracy show 2242 01:35:52,580 --> 01:35:49,750 right now we're waiting to hear for on 2243 01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:52,590 for a third season I have no no idea 2244 01:35:58,800 --> 01:35:55,510 we're waiting for the go-ahead from two 2245 01:36:01,380 --> 01:35:58,810 TV everything looks positive but having 2246 01:36:04,500 --> 01:36:01,390 been in that business you never believed 2247 01:36:07,110 --> 01:36:04,510 it until it's happening other than that 2248 01:36:09,660 --> 01:36:07,120 what's in the future for me I plan I 2249 01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:09,670 think on applying for Mexican 2250 01:36:15,450 --> 01:36:12,910 citizenship I'm not giving up my US 2251 01:36:17,610 --> 01:36:15,460 citizenship but I think that having dual 2252 01:36:19,890 --> 01:36:17,620 citizenship would be very good for me 2253 01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:19,900 personally because I do go back and 2254 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:22,480 forth so often and then piggybacking on 2255 01:36:28,230 --> 01:36:24,730 what you said about the fear of living 2256 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:28,240 in Mexico well I have such fear to live 2257 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:30,730 in Mexico that right now I've left my 2258 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:32,770 wife for two weeks down there all alone 2259 01:36:39,420 --> 01:36:36,210 and I have no fear at all for her safety 2260 01:36:42,210 --> 01:36:39,430 now there is a great deal of problems in 2261 01:36:44,850 --> 01:36:42,220 Mexico because of the war on drugs and 2262 01:36:48,990 --> 01:36:44,860 we could solve those problems in a 2263 01:36:51,930 --> 01:36:49,000 simple easy method legalization because 2264 01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:51,940 were supplying all the weapons to the 2265 01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:54,490 cartels down there and there is a 2266 01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:56,320 tremendous amount of murders at the 2267 01:37:00,900 --> 01:36:58,330 borders and in a certain part of the 2268 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:00,910 mainland but I live in the Baja and 2269 01:37:06,180 --> 01:37:03,730 right now other than Kia Juana the Baja 2270 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:06,190 is the most wonderful place one of the 2271 01:37:11,850 --> 01:37:10,090 most wonderful places on the planet but 2272 01:37:14,580 --> 01:37:11,860 isn't that been the whole story we 2273 01:37:17,490 --> 01:37:14,590 didn't learn from prohibition that if 2274 01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:17,500 you take something that's popular and 2275 01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:20,080 you ban it you make it illegal you 2276 01:37:24,990 --> 01:37:23,440 create this underclass of criminals 2277 01:37:26,490 --> 01:37:25,000 we're going to fill the need if you 2278 01:37:29,490 --> 01:37:26,500 don't approve that need if you don't 2279 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:29,500 allow it to happen somebody who wants to 2280 01:37:34,230 --> 01:37:31,570 make a buck and they will provide the 2281 01:37:35,790 --> 01:37:34,240 service absolutely you know people think 2282 01:37:38,580 --> 01:37:35,800 that if you prohibit something it's 2283 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:38,590 going away it doesn't go away it's 2284 01:37:43,110 --> 01:37:40,570 simply going to be run by criminals now 2285 01:37:44,910 --> 01:37:43,120 and my mother even told me she lived 2286 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:44,920 through the pole business alcohol and 2287 01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:47,170 she said the wall before she passed away 2288 01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:49,360 she told me the war on drugs is 2289 01:37:54,190 --> 01:37:51,520 identical to the prohibition of alcohol 2290 01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:54,200 all it does is make criminals rich 2291 01:38:00,040 --> 01:37:57,520 powerful and clearly I'll tell you this 2292 01:38:02,410 --> 01:38:00,050 somebody in our government is making 2293 01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:02,420 huge money on keeping those drugs 2294 01:38:08,370 --> 01:38:05,510 illegal somebody's making huge money 2295 01:38:12,850 --> 01:38:08,380 plus you've got to fight the corporate 2296 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:12,860 entities of Alcohol Tobacco and all of 2297 01:38:17,740 --> 01:38:14,930 them who do not want any other 2298 01:38:20,260 --> 01:38:17,750 substances made legal because they're 2299 01:38:21,970 --> 01:38:20,270 the legal drugs you can take well if the 2300 01:38:23,530 --> 01:38:21,980 others remain legal when they want to 2301 01:38:26,110 --> 01:38:23,540 get in the business and take it over 2302 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:26,120 maybe so but they've got a monopoly 2303 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:30,170 right now and so who knows but but but 2304 01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:32,210 the problem is with marijuana you can 2305 01:38:36,700 --> 01:38:34,880 grow your own so you don't have to buy 2306 01:38:39,090 --> 01:38:36,710 any if you know why after it's a plant 2307 01:38:43,690 --> 01:38:39,100 you can grow it in the backyard so weed 2308 01:38:45,610 --> 01:38:43,700 and you know so you know nobody's gonna 2309 01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:45,620 make their own booze anymore that's too 2310 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:49,040 much trouble but but the thing is is 2311 01:38:53,620 --> 01:38:51,290 that you know clearly somebody's making 2312 01:38:56,850 --> 01:38:53,630 money on keeping it illegal you know 2313 01:38:59,440 --> 01:38:56,860 there's no doubt in my mind about that 2314 01:39:02,380 --> 01:38:59,450 Chris well now we're on the we're on the 2315 01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:02,390 subject of plants in part two of your 2316 01:39:08,110 --> 01:39:05,170 book you go into some pretty interesting 2317 01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:08,120 documents that have to do with our food 2318 01:39:14,380 --> 01:39:11,840 supply the lack of inspections the use 2319 01:39:17,890 --> 01:39:14,390 of pesticides and the honey bee colony 2320 01:39:19,420 --> 01:39:17,900 collapse situation and the whole fight 2321 01:39:21,630 --> 01:39:19,430 that America is undergoing right now 2322 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:21,640 with Europe over in the biotech industry 2323 01:39:25,780 --> 01:39:24,050 and the introduction of biotech crops 2324 01:39:29,020 --> 01:39:25,790 you want to address those those issues a 2325 01:39:31,450 --> 01:39:29,030 little well again we you know we're 2326 01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:31,460 messing with nature in our own way we're 2327 01:39:33,670 --> 01:39:33,110 messing with food I don't think that's a 2328 01:39:36,190 --> 01:39:33,680 good idea 2329 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:36,200 I eat much healthier in Mexico than I've 2330 01:39:40,090 --> 01:39:38,810 been here because in Mexico you gotta 2331 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:40,100 eat things quick there's no 2332 01:39:44,530 --> 01:39:42,410 preservatives here in the United States 2333 01:39:46,690 --> 01:39:44,540 when you go into the store everything's 2334 01:39:49,060 --> 01:39:46,700 got a 30-day shelf life because as 2335 01:39:51,610 --> 01:39:49,070 preservatives in fact look at it from 2336 01:39:55,660 --> 01:39:51,620 this aspect you know the fluoride that 2337 01:39:57,730 --> 01:39:55,670 they put in water here right well or I 2338 01:40:00,010 --> 01:39:57,740 guess they figure we can't brush our 2339 01:40:02,140 --> 01:40:00,020 teeth or nothing so they put fluoride in 2340 01:40:04,660 --> 01:40:02,150 the water well do you know what fluoride 2341 01:40:08,379 --> 01:40:04,670 is the main ingredient of 2342 01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:08,389 close that so in essence if you got 2343 01:40:13,660 --> 01:40:10,159 fluoride in the water you're drinking 2344 01:40:16,180 --> 01:40:13,670 prozac every day so we're all don't need 2345 01:40:17,169 --> 01:40:16,190 all those antidepressants that they're 2346 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:17,179 trying to sell us 2347 01:40:23,500 --> 01:40:20,090 well well fluoride was made famous by 2348 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:23,510 the Nazis and so I guess we just took it 2349 01:40:27,550 --> 01:40:25,250 over from them and decided it was a good 2350 01:40:30,370 --> 01:40:27,560 thing to put it in our water to keep 2351 01:40:32,830 --> 01:40:30,380 people's dumb and to keep people's you 2352 01:40:34,750 --> 01:40:32,840 know kind of like zombies I guess but 2353 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:34,760 yeah it's law rights the main ingredient 2354 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:36,530 the Prozac well there's one thing I 2355 01:40:41,470 --> 01:40:38,330 wanted to ask about that too just I was 2356 01:40:44,379 --> 01:40:41,480 reading in the newspapers of a survey 2357 01:40:47,379 --> 01:40:44,389 some months back suggesting that for 2358 01:40:50,050 --> 01:40:47,389 most people antidepressants don't do a 2359 01:40:53,290 --> 01:40:50,060 darn thing it's only the little inny of 2360 01:40:55,570 --> 01:40:53,300 really extreme cases yeah maybe so 2361 01:40:58,540 --> 01:40:55,580 I don't know all I know is that I had 2362 01:41:00,700 --> 01:40:58,550 two acquaintances that got put on Prozac 2363 01:41:03,729 --> 01:41:00,710 and within six months they committed 2364 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:03,739 suicide I don't know if there's a tie-in 2365 01:41:09,189 --> 01:41:06,290 to the Prozac but they had wouldn't been 2366 01:41:10,830 --> 01:41:09,199 put on it and you know six months later 2367 01:41:13,570 --> 01:41:10,840 after being on it they committed suicide 2368 01:41:16,060 --> 01:41:13,580 well you know really sorry to hear that 2369 01:41:18,250 --> 01:41:16,070 but I think also the warnings every look 2370 01:41:20,620 --> 01:41:18,260 in the warning labels of these drugs you 2371 01:41:22,959 --> 01:41:20,630 have to be scared to death because some 2372 01:41:25,149 --> 01:41:22,969 of them say I watch on TV oh this drug 2373 01:41:26,979 --> 01:41:25,159 it's an ad the president will cure what 2374 01:41:33,879 --> 01:41:26,989 ails you and then they read the 2375 01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:33,889 conditions may cause death put it this 2376 01:41:39,939 --> 01:41:36,650 way i watch daytime TV once and all the 2377 01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:39,949 drug ads every drug they advertised on 2378 01:41:46,359 --> 01:41:42,800 TV had way more side effects than 2379 01:41:50,770 --> 01:41:46,369 marijuana and all the medicinal values 2380 01:41:53,020 --> 01:41:50,780 of marijuana yeah additional value 2381 01:41:59,020 --> 01:41:53,030 absolutely but of course we want to ban 2382 01:42:04,780 --> 01:41:59,030 that Chris what is the Bill of Rights 2383 01:42:08,649 --> 01:42:04,790 written on the flight Betsy Ross's flag 2384 01:42:11,050 --> 01:42:08,659 is true right I think there's more uses 2385 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:11,060 for pot I think it was like over ten 2386 01:42:14,159 --> 01:42:13,010 thousand uses that have been used over 2387 01:42:16,379 --> 01:42:14,169 the millennia 2388 01:42:18,719 --> 01:42:16,389 well you know you know why you know why 2389 01:42:22,229 --> 01:42:18,729 it was banned originally William 2390 01:42:24,689 --> 01:42:22,239 Randolph Hearst the big caper guys from 2391 01:42:27,209 --> 01:42:24,699 San Francisco sure what he owned 2392 01:42:29,069 --> 01:42:27,219 thousands of acres of timberland and he 2393 01:42:30,569 --> 01:42:29,079 used his money and influence to get the 2394 01:42:32,969 --> 01:42:30,579 federal government to make hemp and 2395 01:42:35,850 --> 01:42:32,979 marijuana illegal so that we would then 2396 01:42:37,049 --> 01:42:35,860 have to buy timber to make paper rather 2397 01:42:40,350 --> 01:42:37,059 than using him 2398 01:42:43,169 --> 01:42:40,360 so again follow the money but he 2399 01:42:45,299 --> 01:42:43,179 couldn't make money from him well he 2400 01:42:48,209 --> 01:42:45,309 didn't have thousands of acres that's 2401 01:42:51,029 --> 01:42:48,219 your land the old map so he wanted hemp 2402 01:42:55,500 --> 01:42:51,039 illegal that forced him forced us to buy 2403 01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:55,510 his timber because you know hemp will 2404 01:43:01,379 --> 01:42:58,090 grow 20 feet in a year a tree will only 2405 01:43:05,819 --> 01:43:01,389 grow one foot so hemp is much more 2406 01:43:08,729 --> 01:43:05,829 renewable now that's a big thing to all 2407 01:43:13,129 --> 01:43:08,739 our quests now for renewable energy and 2408 01:43:17,639 --> 01:43:15,540 anywhere because I even look at these 2409 01:43:20,609 --> 01:43:17,649 electric cars really fascinating but 2410 01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:20,619 sometimes it cost more in the charging 2411 01:43:26,069 --> 01:43:22,840 stations and does to just put gas in 2412 01:43:28,259 --> 01:43:26,079 there well you know who knows 2413 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:28,269 we certainly if we weren't fighting 2414 01:43:33,089 --> 01:43:30,130 these wars we would have a tremendous 2415 01:43:35,339 --> 01:43:33,099 amount of money to put into exploring 2416 01:43:37,979 --> 01:43:35,349 alternative energy which would be a 2417 01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:37,989 positive thing for the world get us off 2418 01:43:43,589 --> 01:43:41,199 the tendency of oil but as long as we're 2419 01:43:45,449 --> 01:43:43,599 fighting these wars we're not gonna have 2420 01:43:48,330 --> 01:43:45,459 money to do much of anything beyond that 2421 01:43:50,580 --> 01:43:48,340 I mean look at now they're destroying 2422 01:43:52,909 --> 01:43:50,590 the unions and they're trying to see 2423 01:43:55,709 --> 01:43:52,919 that's the problem for the deficits 2424 01:43:58,919 --> 01:43:55,719 excuse me how come nobody from Wall 2425 01:44:01,679 --> 01:43:58,929 Street's going to jail you think about a 2426 01:44:05,310 --> 01:44:01,689 teacher who gets a master's degree and 2427 01:44:07,379 --> 01:44:05,320 starts a $30,000 a year and somebody 2428 01:44:09,089 --> 01:44:07,389 just with a bachelor's degree goes to 2429 01:44:12,089 --> 01:44:09,099 Wall Street and makes millions we have 2430 01:44:13,529 --> 01:44:12,099 governor Jesse Ventura the book 63 2431 01:44:15,569 --> 01:44:13,539 documents the government doesn't want 2432 01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:15,579 you to read by the way if you want to 2433 01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:18,249 contact us send your email news at the 2434 01:44:21,330 --> 01:44:19,360 power cast com 2435 01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:21,340 once again that's news of the power cast 2436 01:44:26,879 --> 01:44:24,249 com where we read every message we get 2437 01:44:27,629 --> 01:44:26,889 I'm Jean Steinberg the co-host Chris 2438 01:44:36,780 --> 01:44:27,639 O'Brien 2439 01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:39,110 [Music] 2440 01:44:43,740 --> 01:44:41,770 hi this is Ted Anderson if you own an 2441 01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:43,750 Apple iPhone and love to listen to your 2442 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:46,000 favorite programs on GCN I've got good 2443 01:44:50,490 --> 01:44:47,770 news for you I'm proud to announce that 2444 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:50,500 GCN has a brand new iPhone app available 2445 01:44:54,630 --> 01:44:52,690 for our dedicated listeners at GCN 2446 01:44:56,730 --> 01:44:54,640 live.com listen to your favorite 2447 01:44:58,800 --> 01:44:56,740 hard-hitting GCN programs live or 2448 01:45:01,020 --> 01:44:58,810 on-demand right on your iPhone and the 2449 01:45:03,420 --> 01:45:01,030 best part the gcn iPhone app can be 2450 01:45:05,250 --> 01:45:03,430 yours absolutely free download the 2451 01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:05,260 iPhone app today by clicking on the 2452 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:08,400 banner at GCN live.com again that's GCN 2453 01:45:12,630 --> 01:45:10,930 live.com hi this is Ted Anderson have 2454 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:12,640 you ever wondered why banks stockbrokers 2455 01:45:16,050 --> 01:45:14,170 investment advisors won't talk about 2456 01:45:18,570 --> 01:45:16,060 gold IRAs they've been available since 2457 01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:18,580 1986 yet the financial industry won't 2458 01:45:22,230 --> 01:45:20,350 recognize the value of gold for your 2459 01:45:24,540 --> 01:45:22,240 retirement gold has outperformed paper 2460 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:24,550 investments yet no word about IRAs if 2461 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:26,050 you would like to have gold for your 2462 01:45:58,110 --> 01:45:55,670 [Music] 2463 01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:58,120 returning in the last few segments with 2464 01:46:02,310 --> 01:45:59,920 Governor Jesse Ventura who has 2465 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:02,320 graciously agreed to stay with us for 2466 01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:04,570 the show we're talking right now about 2467 01:46:09,540 --> 01:46:07,690 why things might be illegal but who 2468 01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:09,550 benefits from things that ought to be 2469 01:46:13,650 --> 01:46:12,070 legal about kind of this dichotomy here 2470 01:46:16,290 --> 01:46:13,660 where people on Wall Street make 2471 01:46:19,140 --> 01:46:16,300 millions but the teachers we depend upon 2472 01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:19,150 to teach our youth to prepare them for 2473 01:46:22,530 --> 01:46:19,840 the future 2474 01:46:24,030 --> 01:46:22,540 we give them a virtual pittance people 2475 01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:24,040 who go out in the street as policemen 2476 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:26,170 police women they go out there law 2477 01:46:31,620 --> 01:46:28,570 enforcement officers taking their lives 2478 01:46:33,780 --> 01:46:31,630 in their hands and they get these 2479 01:46:36,209 --> 01:46:33,790 incredibly low salaries where's the 2480 01:46:41,310 --> 01:46:36,219 dichotomy how do we do something about 2481 01:46:43,740 --> 01:46:41,320 that I don't know you can't ask me to 2482 01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:43,750 move everything the nature of the piece 2483 01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:46,750 you know what I laugh at is Hollywood 2484 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:49,360 someone can go pretend to be a cop and 2485 01:46:55,130 --> 01:46:52,410 get paid five million bucks just 2486 01:46:57,420 --> 01:46:55,140 pretending to be one on the screen 2487 01:47:00,900 --> 01:46:57,430 that's right but if you're a real cop 2488 01:47:02,340 --> 01:47:00,910 you course get 30 40 50 thousand and so 2489 01:47:04,890 --> 01:47:02,350 it might shoot you tomorrow 2490 01:47:08,130 --> 01:47:04,900 and that's it and you give a pittance to 2491 01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:08,140 the survivors yep exactly but you know 2492 01:47:11,490 --> 01:47:09,730 that's the way of the world you know you 2493 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:11,500 can't change everything to make it all 2494 01:47:14,850 --> 01:47:13,810 right you can only do the best again one 2495 01:47:18,030 --> 01:47:14,860 step at a time 2496 01:47:20,130 --> 01:47:18,040 how's the questions going Chris well 2497 01:47:22,050 --> 01:47:20,140 we're pretty much done with the 2498 01:47:25,470 --> 01:47:22,060 questions from the forum I personally 2499 01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:25,480 have a number based on some of the very 2500 01:47:29,790 --> 01:47:27,280 interesting documents that governor 2501 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:29,800 Ventura has included in the book one of 2502 01:47:33,110 --> 01:47:31,090 the things that's always interested me 2503 01:47:36,630 --> 01:47:33,120 and you brought it up early on Jesse's 2504 01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:36,640 project artichoke MKULTRA military 2505 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:39,730 experimentation on our own troops the 2506 01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:41,770 whole issue of the government's response 2507 01:47:48,540 --> 01:47:46,510 and denial of Gulf War illness and how 2508 01:47:51,420 --> 01:47:48,550 some of these government programs have 2509 01:47:53,459 --> 01:47:51,430 adversely affected the good men and 2510 01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:53,469 women of our military and in public 2511 01:47:57,510 --> 01:47:56,410 service why don't you talk to us a 2512 01:47:59,670 --> 01:47:57,520 little bit about what you've uncovered 2513 01:48:01,950 --> 01:47:59,680 in terms of some of the early 2514 01:48:04,540 --> 01:48:01,960 experiments on our own troops and then 2515 01:48:06,670 --> 01:48:04,550 look at the issue of 2516 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:06,680 Gulf War illness and in for instance 2517 01:48:11,170 --> 01:48:08,330 Agent Orange which I believe you 2518 01:48:14,260 --> 01:48:11,180 personally feel had adversely impacted 2519 01:48:16,630 --> 01:48:14,270 you in your house no no it hasn't I 2520 01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,640 don't know where that got reported from 2521 01:48:22,810 --> 01:48:18,800 I don't know how that arose it had to be 2522 01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:22,820 something in wrestling but III didn't 2523 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:25,010 know my knowledge I don't I never 2524 01:48:30,130 --> 01:48:27,530 contacted Agent Orange I don't think so 2525 01:48:32,410 --> 01:48:30,140 so I don't know where that rose up from 2526 01:48:34,570 --> 01:48:32,420 but somehow that's been out there for a 2527 01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:34,580 number of years and I always try to 2528 01:48:39,490 --> 01:48:37,520 debunk it when someone brings it up okay 2529 01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:39,500 good good because yeah I did read that 2530 01:48:46,210 --> 01:48:43,520 somewhere I think damn wrestling 2531 01:48:48,820 --> 01:48:46,220 magazine or something years ago and 2532 01:48:50,860 --> 01:48:48,830 somehow you know when when one thing 2533 01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:50,870 gets printed and print well then it 2534 01:48:57,460 --> 01:48:54,050 sometimes gets its own life and I want 2535 01:48:59,470 --> 01:48:57,470 that right now I owe my knowledge I've 2536 01:49:02,140 --> 01:48:59,480 had no ill effects from Agent Orange 2537 01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:02,150 whatsoever well as a frogman I was kind 2538 01:49:07,630 --> 01:49:04,960 of wondering about that and be pretty uh 2539 01:49:09,190 --> 01:49:07,640 let me add you seem to be on it wouldn't 2540 01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:09,200 be difficult because I'm sure it could 2541 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:09,920 be in the water 2542 01:49:15,070 --> 01:49:12,890 and in the river I'm not you know no it 2543 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:15,080 probably you could very well be I will 2544 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:16,130 tell you this 2545 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:18,890 today I have numb feet and they can't 2546 01:49:24,130 --> 01:49:21,410 tell me why it's called nonspecific 2547 01:49:27,130 --> 01:49:24,140 neuropathy and I went to the Mayo Clinic 2548 01:49:29,110 --> 01:49:27,140 and you know it affects my balance a 2549 01:49:33,220 --> 01:49:29,120 little bit and that had happened at like 2550 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:33,230 age 50 and in fact I my toenails started 2551 01:49:37,390 --> 01:49:35,810 turning black and falling off and I went 2552 01:49:39,460 --> 01:49:37,400 through the doctor and he took a clip of 2553 01:49:42,700 --> 01:49:39,470 it sent it to the University of 2554 01:49:45,220 --> 01:49:42,710 Minnesota he came back and said did you 2555 01:49:47,860 --> 01:49:45,230 serve in Vietnam and Southeast Asian I 2556 01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:47,870 said yeah 17 months he said well we're 2557 01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:49,850 seeing more of this he said you picked 2558 01:49:55,300 --> 01:49:52,250 up a fungus over there and apparently 2559 01:49:58,690 --> 01:49:55,310 lies dormant in your body for 20-25 2560 01:50:00,460 --> 01:49:58,700 years before it comes out and that's 2561 01:50:02,830 --> 01:50:00,470 apparently one thing that happened to me 2562 01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:02,840 now I can't explain anything more than 2563 01:50:08,890 --> 01:50:06,050 that the Mayo Clinic said that uh my nan 2564 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:08,900 spirits specific neuropathy he said we 2565 01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:10,850 can't explain why your feet are not well 2566 01:50:16,130 --> 01:50:12,800 what are your feelings about the like 2567 01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:16,140 Gulf War Syndrome and Agent Orange 2568 01:50:20,850 --> 01:50:18,400 well I'll tell you how I feel it's 2569 01:50:23,820 --> 01:50:20,860 typical they always screw over the 2570 01:50:26,090 --> 01:50:23,830 veteran they always praise us out on the 2571 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:26,100 streets they have parades for us 2572 01:50:31,110 --> 01:50:28,810 everybody tells you thank you for your 2573 01:50:34,230 --> 01:50:31,120 service and all that but when it comes 2574 01:50:38,850 --> 01:50:34,240 down to taking care of the veteran after 2575 01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:38,860 the war we fall short every time we fell 2576 01:50:45,180 --> 01:50:41,920 short in Vietnam we fell short in Korea 2577 01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:45,190 we felt short in the Gulf War and we 2578 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:47,110 were certainly fall short in the Iraq 2579 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:49,810 and Afghan war because once the soldiers 2580 01:50:54,660 --> 01:50:52,570 been used the government don't care 2581 01:50:57,660 --> 01:50:54,670 about them anymore it's called 2582 01:51:00,360 --> 01:50:57,670 collateral damage and people should wake 2583 01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:00,370 up to that fact quit just giving them 2584 01:51:06,690 --> 01:51:03,790 lip service patriotism do something with 2585 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:06,700 money and health and at the VA hospitals 2586 01:51:12,030 --> 01:51:09,130 and help the veterans outward really 2587 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:12,040 counts not just simply doing things at 2588 01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:14,290 football games and telling everybody 2589 01:51:19,980 --> 01:51:17,440 like Sean Hannity did me oh thank you so 2590 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:19,990 much for your service and all that BS 2591 01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:22,690 that they always give you you know the 2592 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:24,520 proofs in the pudding take care of the 2593 01:51:29,310 --> 01:51:27,970 veterans they take care of you kind of 2594 01:51:31,170 --> 01:51:29,320 reminds me of the bumper sticker I've 2595 01:51:36,780 --> 01:51:31,180 been seeing more and more lately support 2596 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:36,790 our troops bring them home well what 2597 01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:39,010 about this whole controversy that sprang 2598 01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:42,730 up over your covering the story of FEMA 2599 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:45,280 internment camps and and and the the 2600 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:47,530 so-called internment camps and well and 2601 01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:50,770 plans and plans to have large large 2602 01:51:55,890 --> 01:51:53,110 holding centers for American citizens in 2603 01:51:57,870 --> 01:51:55,900 the case of national emergencies well 2604 01:52:01,800 --> 01:51:57,880 apparently we must have struck a raw 2605 01:52:05,850 --> 01:52:01,810 nerve ECOSOC : the scent of the 2606 01:52:08,580 --> 01:52:05,860 congressman from Tennessee I he think 2607 01:52:10,620 --> 01:52:08,590 the government came hard at time AOL 2608 01:52:14,700 --> 01:52:10,630 Time Warner who's the parent company of 2609 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:14,710 truTV and it aired one time they pulled 2610 01:52:18,810 --> 01:52:16,930 it and now they won't acknowledge that 2611 01:52:20,430 --> 01:52:18,820 we even did it and they won't talk about 2612 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:20,440 it they don't list it or anything and 2613 01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:22,570 you're right it was all over a bill we 2614 01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:25,870 found from homeland security that dot 2615 01:52:29,890 --> 01:52:29,170 that said that they wanted FEMA to build 2616 01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:29,900 no less 2617 01:52:35,590 --> 01:52:32,239 six internment camps around the country 2618 01:52:37,930 --> 01:52:35,600 and we took a photo of one and it looks 2619 01:52:39,700 --> 01:52:37,940 just like a prison camp in Germany 2620 01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:39,710 because it's located right next to the 2621 01:52:44,500 --> 01:52:42,320 railroad so apparently you can bring in 2622 01:52:46,330 --> 01:52:44,510 people on the railroad and like they did 2623 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:46,340 in Germany and drop them off there for 2624 01:52:52,899 --> 01:52:50,090 good keeping and this is one this prison 2625 01:52:56,050 --> 01:52:52,909 we looked at in Texas it was run by the 2626 01:52:58,810 --> 01:52:56,060 private sector it was called a residence 2627 01:53:00,250 --> 01:52:58,820 and yet no one could move in and out of 2628 01:53:02,169 --> 01:53:00,260 it it was the doors were locked 2629 01:53:04,899 --> 01:53:02,179 I had to pound on the door for a half 2630 01:53:06,820 --> 01:53:04,909 hour with the TV cameras before someone 2631 01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:06,830 would come out and talk to me and when 2632 01:53:12,370 --> 01:53:09,530 they did every answer that I got was no 2633 01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:12,380 comment and the scary part was in the 2634 01:53:18,459 --> 01:53:15,199 back of this place yeah it looked like a 2635 01:53:21,010 --> 01:53:18,469 dead daycare center they had swings they 2636 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:21,020 had slides and all this stuff for kids 2637 01:53:25,570 --> 01:53:23,810 and I asked them do you keep children 2638 01:53:27,939 --> 01:53:25,580 here no comment 2639 01:53:31,209 --> 01:53:27,949 have you ever kept children here no 2640 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:31,219 comment what would a child have to do to 2641 01:53:36,939 --> 01:53:35,090 end up here no comment but that was the 2642 01:53:39,459 --> 01:53:36,949 scary thing about it the fact that they 2643 01:53:42,340 --> 01:53:39,469 had all this stuff out back like a 2644 01:53:45,490 --> 01:53:42,350 daycare center inside of a prison in 2645 01:53:47,860 --> 01:53:45,500 Texas being run you know a lot of people 2646 01:53:50,229 --> 01:53:47,870 are crying out now all privatized 2647 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:50,239 everything cut down the size of 2648 01:53:55,300 --> 01:53:52,370 government do this and do that well 2649 01:53:57,390 --> 01:53:55,310 that's good to a certain extent but you 2650 01:54:00,160 --> 01:53:57,400 can't privatize everything and I think 2651 01:54:02,290 --> 01:54:00,170 privatizing prisons is wrong because 2652 01:54:04,810 --> 01:54:02,300 then you got the private sector running 2653 01:54:07,570 --> 01:54:04,820 them and who's to say whether anybody's 2654 01:54:09,550 --> 01:54:07,580 truly doing a check-and-balance there to 2655 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:09,560 see what's going on and wouldn't you 2656 01:54:13,870 --> 01:54:11,690 also convict more people to fill the 2657 01:54:15,939 --> 01:54:13,880 prisons so they make money yeah 2658 01:54:18,340 --> 01:54:15,949 absolutely good point 2659 01:54:20,530 --> 01:54:18,350 then you'll keep your marijuana laws and 2660 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:20,540 all these phony laws so that you can 2661 01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:22,850 keep tossing people in there and then 2662 01:54:26,979 --> 01:54:24,770 the government will subsidize it and all 2663 01:54:29,110 --> 01:54:26,989 that and away you go but I think 2664 01:54:31,330 --> 01:54:29,120 privatization of Prisons is horrible 2665 01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:31,340 also you look at the situation in this 2666 01:54:36,189 --> 01:54:33,590 country where I think we have a higher 2667 01:54:37,540 --> 01:54:36,199 percentage of our population in prison 2668 01:54:40,330 --> 01:54:37,550 than almost anywhere else in the world 2669 01:54:43,220 --> 01:54:40,340 we do of all the industrialized 2670 01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:43,230 countries in the world the United States 2671 01:54:47,300 --> 01:54:44,820 which is supposed to be the bastion of 2672 01:54:49,850 --> 01:54:47,310 freedom we have the most prison 2673 01:54:52,220 --> 01:54:49,860 population that's a disconnect that I 2674 01:54:53,810 --> 01:54:52,230 cannot understand but again as you said 2675 01:54:56,540 --> 01:54:53,820 before you know marijuana how many 2676 01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:56,550 people take a couple of smokes and 2677 01:55:00,620 --> 01:54:58,410 they're in prison now of course we have 2678 01:55:02,660 --> 01:55:00,630 less of that a movement in that 2679 01:55:05,500 --> 01:55:02,670 direction but just think of how many 2680 01:55:08,420 --> 01:55:05,510 people have spent time in prison for 2681 01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:08,430 victimless crimes just oh it's horrible 2682 01:55:13,970 --> 01:55:11,520 it's got the great book on it I think 2683 01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:13,980 what was his name oh I can't think of me 2684 01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:15,930 died he wrote eight nobody's business 2685 01:55:20,660 --> 01:55:18,239 but your own I'll tell you what we've 2686 01:55:22,910 --> 01:55:20,670 got the governor Jesse Ventura for just 2687 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:22,920 a few more segments here on the power 2688 01:55:27,020 --> 01:55:25,170 cast book the sixty three documents the 2689 01:55:29,540 --> 01:55:27,030 government doesn't want you to read the 2690 01:55:39,470 --> 01:55:29,550 co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene 2691 01:55:41,330 --> 01:55:39,480 Steinberg you're in the para cast you 2692 01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,340 expect professional service from your 2693 01:55:45,290 --> 01:55:43,440 doctor your accountant and even the girl 2694 01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:45,300 who takes your morning coffee order why 2695 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:47,280 not from your domain registrar to 2696 01:55:52,610 --> 01:55:50,010 namecheap.com 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David berry has 2746 01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:42,230 provided excellent advice for all those 2747 01:58:46,990 --> 01:58:44,480 interested in practical economics and 2748 01:58:48,910 --> 01:58:47,000 sound money it's certainly worth reading 2749 01:58:51,550 --> 01:58:48,920 that's what congressman ron paul said 2750 01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:51,560 about cha ching wisdom 123 practical 2751 01:58:55,870 --> 01:58:53,450 universal truths about money the new 2752 01:58:57,190 --> 01:58:55,880 book by dr. david berry the cool part of 2753 01:58:59,200 --> 01:58:57,200 this book certainly it'll speak to you 2754 01:59:00,760 --> 01:58:59,210 personally your life your lifestyle your 2755 01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:00,770 your money your investments but it also 2756 01:59:04,690 --> 01:59:03,170 can be generalized into the nation 2757 01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:04,700 what's going on as a nation we do these 2758 01:59:08,330 --> 01:59:06,320 same things as personally that we do as 2759 01:59:10,130 --> 01:59:08,340 a nation dr. Berry's book 2760 01:59:12,140 --> 01:59:10,140 wisdom presents many facets of your 2761 01:59:14,210 --> 01:59:12,150 relationship with the once almighty 2762 01:59:16,460 --> 01:59:14,220 dollar and how current national and 2763 01:59:18,140 --> 01:59:16,470 international politics affect your daily 2764 01:59:20,330 --> 01:59:18,150 life some of the other things are about 2765 01:59:22,130 --> 01:59:20,340 that they're not just economic their 2766 01:59:23,630 --> 01:59:22,140 philosophical there's psychology 2767 01:59:25,700 --> 01:59:23,640 involved in this book there's philosophy 2768 01:59:28,820 --> 01:59:25,710 and wellness book read touching wisdom 2769 01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:28,830 by dr. David berry only 995 available at 2770 01:59:39,410 --> 01:59:33,330 cha-ching wisdom calm that CH a CH I ng 2771 01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:39,420 wisdom calm cha-ching wisdom calm the 2772 01:59:45,170 --> 01:59:42,000 Jeezy and radio network providing the 2773 01:59:51,919 --> 01:59:45,180 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 2774 01:59:56,419 --> 01:59:54,590 we want to hear from you if you have a 2775 02:00:00,200 --> 01:59:56,429 comment or question about the pair cast 2776 02:00:03,590 --> 02:00:00,210 send it to News at Lapera cast calm 2777 02:00:05,330 --> 02:00:03,600 that's news at Lapera cast calm and 2778 02:00:07,669 --> 02:00:05,340 don't forget to visit our famous pair 2779 02:00:11,060 --> 02:00:07,679 cast community forums at forum dot 2780 02:00:16,910 --> 02:00:11,070 Lapera cast calm getting all the action 2781 02:00:19,399 --> 02:00:16,920 at forum dot the para cast comm we're 2782 02:00:21,500 --> 02:00:19,409 back governor jesse ventura joining us 2783 02:00:23,450 --> 02:00:21,510 for the full show Chris O'Brien's the 2784 02:00:25,729 --> 02:00:23,460 co-host I'm gene Steinberg you're in the 2785 02:00:28,430 --> 02:00:25,739 para cast and Chris has done a 2786 02:00:31,700 --> 02:00:28,440 tremendous amount of research reading 2787 02:00:33,590 --> 02:00:31,710 over the book preparing questions and I 2788 02:00:36,290 --> 02:00:33,600 know you have a lot more to cover go 2789 02:00:38,959 --> 02:00:36,300 ahead please you know I'm like you Jesse 2790 02:00:41,479 --> 02:00:38,969 I I actually turned off my TV about 2791 02:00:44,930 --> 02:00:41,489 three years ago but I have made it my 2792 02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:44,940 business to see as many of your episodes 2793 02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:47,370 as possible and a good friend of mine 2794 02:00:53,689 --> 02:00:51,210 who died the fairly soon after he talked 2795 02:00:56,180 --> 02:00:53,699 with you about the HAARP project up in 2796 02:00:57,919 --> 02:00:56,190 Gao Kona Alaska Jerry Smith who wrote 2797 02:01:02,330 --> 02:00:57,929 the book HAARP weather warfare 2798 02:01:08,290 --> 02:01:02,340 I was very yes Jerry died of galloping 2799 02:01:13,419 --> 02:01:11,360 unbelievable yeah yeah was it was a 2800 02:01:15,770 --> 02:01:13,429 shock to us all he was actually the 2801 02:01:17,870 --> 02:01:15,780 managing office manager for the 2802 02:01:20,090 --> 02:01:17,880 publishing company that publishes my 2803 02:01:21,770 --> 02:01:20,100 books and published Jerry's books so it 2804 02:01:25,580 --> 02:01:21,780 was a real loss and a real personal loss 2805 02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:25,590 for for David and Jen and myself but one 2806 02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:27,330 thing that struck me you were talking 2807 02:01:30,770 --> 02:01:28,610 about the no comment 2808 02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:30,780 responses that you were getting from 2809 02:01:34,910 --> 02:01:32,850 Department of Homeland Security people 2810 02:01:37,580 --> 02:01:34,920 or whoever you were interviewing about 2811 02:01:40,399 --> 02:01:37,590 this Texas facility a very similar 2812 02:01:42,260 --> 02:01:40,409 scenario happened on that episode where 2813 02:01:45,290 --> 02:01:42,270 you actually showed up at the front 2814 02:01:47,419 --> 02:01:45,300 gates of HAARP you were not allowed to 2815 02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:47,429 even ask questions you were pretty much 2816 02:01:51,890 --> 02:01:50,130 sheet away what do you think about HAARP 2817 02:01:54,830 --> 02:01:51,900 what do you think about the state of 2818 02:01:56,750 --> 02:01:54,840 Technology well first of all let me 2819 02:01:58,939 --> 02:01:56,760 state this they lie right from the 2820 02:02:01,910 --> 02:01:58,949 get-go because they call it an 2821 02:02:04,129 --> 02:02:01,920 unclassified research center well that's 2822 02:02:05,629 --> 02:02:04,139 a lie because if it was unclassified 2823 02:02:08,959 --> 02:02:05,639 they would have brought let me 2824 02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:08,969 right exactly better clearly it is 2825 02:02:14,180 --> 02:02:11,850 classified because I wasn't allowed in 2826 02:02:16,580 --> 02:02:14,190 even though when I was in the Navy I had 2827 02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:16,590 a top-secret security clearance but I 2828 02:02:21,740 --> 02:02:18,719 guess as a governor that doesn't apply 2829 02:02:24,830 --> 02:02:21,750 anymore isn't that interesting 2830 02:02:27,740 --> 02:02:24,840 but Tommy running anyway yeah exactly no 2831 02:02:29,870 --> 02:02:27,750 harp is odd like dr. Nick Begich said 2832 02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:29,880 when he wrote the book angels don't play 2833 02:02:33,470 --> 02:02:30,690 this harp 2834 02:02:36,350 --> 02:02:33,480 dr. Baggett said to me he said governor 2835 02:02:38,359 --> 02:02:36,360 this is the death ray interesting ladies 2836 02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:38,369 and gentlemen dr. Begich was one of our 2837 02:02:42,859 --> 02:02:40,050 first guests when we started the podcast 2838 02:02:45,709 --> 02:02:42,869 in 2006 oh really well then you know 2839 02:02:49,609 --> 02:02:45,719 very well what I'm talking about a very 2840 02:02:51,260 --> 02:02:49,619 nice man yeah no never years yeah and so 2841 02:02:53,270 --> 02:02:51,270 you know that's all I didn't even know 2842 02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:53,280 this harp existed when we went into the 2843 02:02:57,800 --> 02:02:54,810 show they said guess what you're going 2844 02:02:59,660 --> 02:02:57,810 to Alaska I said what and they said yeah 2845 02:03:02,030 --> 02:02:59,670 this thing the harp you know and so I 2846 02:03:04,129 --> 02:03:02,040 went up there and I saw this thing and I 2847 02:03:06,530 --> 02:03:04,139 went whoa and then when I started 2848 02:03:08,570 --> 02:03:06,540 talking to sit and saw how the locals 2849 02:03:11,750 --> 02:03:08,580 were nobody would talk about the place 2850 02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:11,760 we had held to find anybody up there who 2851 02:03:15,979 --> 02:03:13,530 would even talk to us about it because 2852 02:03:17,780 --> 02:03:15,989 the people seemed so frightened and and 2853 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:17,790 I loved it and I thought this is the 2854 02:03:22,010 --> 02:03:20,010 government and the United States this is 2855 02:03:24,410 --> 02:03:22,020 what what they portrayed the people 2856 02:03:25,879 --> 02:03:24,420 around here and you know once a year 2857 02:03:27,620 --> 02:03:25,889 they let the people come in there and 2858 02:03:29,959 --> 02:03:27,630 they give them a doughnut and coffee and 2859 02:03:31,669 --> 02:03:29,969 then now that that's what they say is oh 2860 02:03:33,709 --> 02:03:31,679 yeah we're open to the public you know 2861 02:03:36,410 --> 02:03:33,719 but it's I don't know what to make of it 2862 02:03:39,290 --> 02:03:36,420 really it can't seem do good to me when 2863 02:03:41,629 --> 02:03:39,300 you take fifty thousand watts multiply 2864 02:03:43,430 --> 02:03:41,639 it and bang it off the ionosphere there 2865 02:03:45,290 --> 02:03:43,440 and ricochet it back there earth because 2866 02:03:47,180 --> 02:03:45,300 it just seems you're messing where you 2867 02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:47,190 shouldn't be messing with things of that 2868 02:03:51,919 --> 02:03:49,650 nature you know I don't know to me it's 2869 02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:51,929 got to be a weapon you know and if it is 2870 02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:53,610 why don't they just be honest and tell 2871 02:03:58,129 --> 02:03:55,110 us what it is you know it's fascinating 2872 02:04:02,479 --> 02:03:58,139 governor how we're sitting here existing 2873 02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:02,489 in this soup of radio waves for example 2874 02:04:06,580 --> 02:04:04,170 I'm just sitting here and I have 2875 02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:06,590 wireless devices a wireless printer 2876 02:04:12,169 --> 02:04:10,560 wireless phone wireless iPad router this 2877 02:04:14,330 --> 02:04:12,179 that and the other thing you think all 2878 02:04:16,310 --> 02:04:14,340 that stuff going on around there I'm 2879 02:04:18,260 --> 02:04:16,320 living in this soup what's it doing to 2880 02:04:20,390 --> 02:04:18,270 me oh yeah why do you think that you 2881 02:04:24,709 --> 02:04:20,400 know I've never owned a cell phone nor 2882 02:04:26,780 --> 02:04:24,719 will I know I haven't I have never owned 2883 02:04:28,820 --> 02:04:26,790 a cell phone many people said how could 2884 02:04:29,870 --> 02:04:28,830 you be governor without a cell phone I 2885 02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:29,880 said easy 2886 02:04:35,450 --> 02:04:33,090 my security bodyguards Adam what do I 2887 02:04:36,950 --> 02:04:35,460 need one for let them suffer so 2888 02:04:38,810 --> 02:04:36,960 therefore if you get a call they just 2889 02:04:41,479 --> 02:04:38,820 hand you the phone yeah if somebody 2890 02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:41,489 wants to talk to me one of my spotty 2891 02:04:46,339 --> 02:04:44,010 guard security state troopers you know 2892 02:04:49,250 --> 02:04:46,349 protect me well hand me governor you 2893 02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:49,260 have a call a cell phone it's 2894 02:04:52,729 --> 02:04:50,730 interesting of course I use hands-free 2895 02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:52,739 when I'm in the car I took that thing 2896 02:04:57,530 --> 02:04:55,050 away from my ear as much as possible I 2897 02:05:01,040 --> 02:04:57,540 actually have made it my life's ambition 2898 02:05:02,589 --> 02:05:01,050 now I will never own a cell phone I want 2899 02:05:06,109 --> 02:05:02,599 to be able to put that on my gravestone 2900 02:05:08,689 --> 02:05:06,119 he never owned a cell phone okay Jesse 2901 02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:08,699 Ventura he never owned a cell phone 2902 02:05:13,550 --> 02:05:11,730 because I figured by the time I die I'll 2903 02:05:15,919 --> 02:05:13,560 be the only one on the planet who can 2904 02:05:17,959 --> 02:05:15,929 say that although I did find someone 2905 02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:17,969 else who's like me what's her name 2906 02:05:21,109 --> 02:05:18,690 Leibovitz 2907 02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:21,119 the writer here in New York sure yeah 2908 02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:23,010 heaps never owned one either I saw a 2909 02:05:26,540 --> 02:05:24,570 special honor and I thought oh my 2910 02:05:28,580 --> 02:05:26,550 goodness there's one other person I 2911 02:05:30,260 --> 02:05:28,590 better outlive her you know something 2912 02:05:32,479 --> 02:05:30,270 you're not the only one one of our 2913 02:05:34,910 --> 02:05:32,489 friends here a very close friend of mine 2914 02:05:36,859 --> 02:05:34,920 who's been on the show a number of times 2915 02:05:38,780 --> 02:05:36,869 I've known him most of my life Jim 2916 02:05:41,089 --> 02:05:38,790 Mosely I don't think you've ever heard 2917 02:05:44,330 --> 02:05:41,099 of him he has a magazine about flying 2918 02:05:46,669 --> 02:05:44,340 saucers called saucers smear he has no 2919 02:05:48,410 --> 02:05:46,679 computer he uses a typewriter he does 2920 02:05:49,970 --> 02:05:48,420 not have a cell phone he doesn't even 2921 02:05:52,970 --> 02:05:49,980 have an answering machine on his phone 2922 02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:52,980 he's never been on the Internet well he 2923 02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,050 sounds very much like me because I'm 2924 02:05:59,870 --> 02:05:57,119 computer ignorant too I don't use a 2925 02:06:02,300 --> 02:05:59,880 computer never have I I do have my 2926 02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:02,310 website but guess what it's being run by 2927 02:06:06,439 --> 02:06:04,560 my son and you know I'll tell you this 2928 02:06:08,839 --> 02:06:06,449 frankly if there's any help I could 2929 02:06:10,820 --> 02:06:08,849 offer with that I would be happy to 2930 02:06:12,830 --> 02:06:10,830 offer that publicly happy to do it 2931 02:06:14,810 --> 02:06:12,840 thank you yeah no my son my son I gave 2932 02:06:17,060 --> 02:06:14,820 him permission you can operate it you 2933 02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:17,070 can do all of that and at home 2934 02:06:22,459 --> 02:06:19,440 my wife does the computer not me so I 2935 02:06:25,010 --> 02:06:22,469 fit right with your friend I'm literate 2936 02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:25,020 I don't own a cell phone and I'm happier 2937 02:06:29,689 --> 02:06:26,610 then I'll tell you the funny story 2938 02:06:33,050 --> 02:06:29,699 sure back in o3 I bought my dream car 2939 02:06:35,540 --> 02:06:33,060 for me which was the Biturbo 450 2940 02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:35,550 horsepower Porsche cell wheel drive 2941 02:06:40,010 --> 02:06:37,679 right and of course you got to get a 2942 02:06:43,339 --> 02:06:40,020 slot number from Germany to get it and 2943 02:06:45,620 --> 02:06:43,349 so you order precisely what you want and 2944 02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:45,630 my salesmen who I bought and probably 2945 02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:48,090 five or six cars from during the years 2946 02:06:52,580 --> 02:06:50,250 because I love outies - my wife has an 2947 02:06:53,990 --> 02:06:52,590 Audi he said well we're heroes this 2948 02:06:55,850 --> 02:06:54,000 question he goes well where do you want 2949 02:06:59,209 --> 02:06:55,860 your cell phone and I looked at him and 2950 02:07:01,939 --> 02:06:59,219 I said I don't want a cell phone look at 2951 02:07:05,540 --> 02:07:01,949 me like I was ordering a car without 2952 02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:05,550 tires I mean it was unbelievable 2953 02:07:10,580 --> 02:07:07,770 and then I said to him but you got that 2954 02:07:13,580 --> 02:07:10,590 six CD player you know we can stack six 2955 02:07:15,649 --> 02:07:13,590 CDs I said I want that in the car but I 2956 02:07:18,109 --> 02:07:15,659 said I don't want no cell phone I said 2957 02:07:20,109 --> 02:07:18,119 my car is my sanctuary I said I don't 2958 02:07:23,330 --> 02:07:20,119 want people bothering me when you have a 2959 02:07:26,540 --> 02:07:23,340 450 horsepower Porsche you want to drive 2960 02:07:29,030 --> 02:07:26,550 the car not talk on the phone I kind of 2961 02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:29,040 understand that my brother-in-law has a 2962 02:07:34,910 --> 02:07:32,159 Porsche a really old one from the 1990s 2963 02:07:36,439 --> 02:07:34,920 in this special blue color where there's 2964 02:07:39,229 --> 02:07:36,449 only like a handful around the world 2965 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:39,239 it's on the greatest state of repair but 2966 02:07:44,060 --> 02:07:41,730 it's an interesting car it really is 2967 02:07:45,740 --> 02:07:44,070 they're all manual you know when you get 2968 02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:45,750 in there you got a drive it you got a 2969 02:07:49,850 --> 02:07:47,520 shift and you've got to run the gears 2970 02:07:51,620 --> 02:07:49,860 and all that and also in Porsches your 2971 02:07:54,290 --> 02:07:51,630 main dial is your tach not your 2972 02:07:56,419 --> 02:07:54,300 speedometer to show that okay yeah right 2973 02:07:58,580 --> 02:07:56,429 well you have to learn to use a slush 2974 02:08:00,500 --> 02:07:58,590 box in most cars these days that's what 2975 02:08:02,660 --> 02:08:00,510 they call them the old days I learned 2976 02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:02,670 how to drive on a stick shift 2977 02:08:06,109 --> 02:08:04,770 unfortunately I've kind of lost the 2978 02:08:07,629 --> 02:08:06,119 knack for it but now you're making me 2979 02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:07,639 feel like I should learn again 2980 02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:10,110 absolutely well my first car ever was a 2981 02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:13,170 64 Pontiac GTO four-on-the-floor 2982 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:17,280 I had an old Chevrolet from a relative 2983 02:08:20,990 --> 02:08:19,530 with three-speed transmission we're 2984 02:08:23,660 --> 02:08:21,000 talking to Governor Jesse Ventura 2985 02:08:25,339 --> 02:08:23,670 reminiscing about everything I think we 2986 02:08:27,589 --> 02:08:25,349 have a few shared experiences here it 2987 02:08:28,970 --> 02:08:27,599 sounds like the book is 63 documents the 2988 02:08:30,590 --> 02:08:28,980 government doesn't want you to read the 2989 02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:30,600 co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm 2990 02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:40,890 jean Steinberger in the para cast is 2991 02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:43,920 there a secret UFO agenda two strange 2992 02:08:48,590 --> 02:08:46,050 creatures from the darkest corners of 2993 02:08:51,380 --> 02:08:48,600 the mind roam the earth is there 2994 02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:51,390 evidence for mind control time travel or 2995 02:08:56,690 --> 02:08:55,050 devious government conspiracies find out 2996 02:08:59,300 --> 02:08:56,700 the inside scoop on the latest 2997 02:09:01,940 --> 02:08:59,310 conspiracies paranormal activity and 2998 02:09:04,970 --> 02:09:01,950 accordion phenomena when you subscribe 2999 02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:04,980 to Tim Beckley's conspiracy term it's 3000 02:09:10,340 --> 02:09:07,770 jam-packed with stories special book and 3001 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for over a decade 3092 02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:50,090 we are the gcn radio network hi this is 3093 02:12:55,450 --> 02:12:52,850 Don Ecker and you are tuned in to the 3094 02:13:02,580 --> 02:12:55,460 para CASP let me tell you what you're 3095 02:13:07,149 --> 02:13:05,050 pursuing our discussions with Jesse 3096 02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:07,159 Ventura former governor of Minnesota 3097 02:13:10,419 --> 02:13:08,570 sixty three documents the government 3098 02:13:12,340 --> 02:13:10,429 doesn't want you to read before Kris 3099 02:13:15,700 --> 02:13:12,350 pursues from where the investigation now 3100 02:13:18,550 --> 02:13:15,710 these documents in getting them that you 3101 02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:18,560 have to kind of weasel your way into 3102 02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:20,210 getting stuff that might have been 3103 02:13:25,149 --> 02:13:22,250 classified how do you come by this stuff 3104 02:13:28,570 --> 02:13:25,159 no not at all we did not do a WikiLeaks 3105 02:13:30,910 --> 02:13:28,580 thing at all everything in this book is 3106 02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:30,920 been put out by the government the only 3107 02:13:35,500 --> 02:13:33,440 thing is you gotta find and mainstream 3108 02:13:38,050 --> 02:13:35,510 media isn't going to find it for you 3109 02:13:40,209 --> 02:13:38,060 so that's why we did it we actually 3110 02:13:42,850 --> 02:13:40,219 started this book dick and I before 3111 02:13:44,919 --> 02:13:42,860 WikiLeaks happened and when it did 3112 02:13:48,010 --> 02:13:44,929 happen we got thoroughly excited because 3113 02:13:50,439 --> 02:13:48,020 we knew it would help our book and it's 3114 02:13:52,630 --> 02:13:50,449 also we used some of the WikiLeaks stuff 3115 02:13:55,450 --> 02:13:52,640 in the book because now of course it is 3116 02:13:56,709 --> 02:13:55,460 public and so once once it's out there 3117 02:13:59,320 --> 02:13:56,719 in the public domain 3118 02:14:00,910 --> 02:13:59,330 you know they can't prosecute you for 3119 02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:00,920 having exposed 3120 02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:03,290 because it's already exposed but no the 3121 02:14:08,530 --> 02:14:06,290 63 documents in this book we're gain 3122 02:14:11,290 --> 02:14:08,540 nothing illegal they are all out there 3123 02:14:13,390 --> 02:14:11,300 you know it's just a matter of trying to 3124 02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:13,400 find them and I will tell you this don't 3125 02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:15,770 ask me because that's where dick Russell 3126 02:14:20,050 --> 02:14:17,570 my co-writer comes in he's the 3127 02:14:22,780 --> 02:14:20,060 phenomenal researcher I don't have the 3128 02:14:24,669 --> 02:14:22,790 patience for it but dicks the guy he 3129 02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:24,679 finds all this stuff and then I simply 3130 02:14:29,860 --> 02:14:27,199 have to read it write about it it's 3131 02:14:31,570 --> 02:14:29,870 remarkable the amount of the amount of 3132 02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:31,580 documentation governor that's in this 3133 02:14:36,820 --> 02:14:34,010 book is is jaw-dropping I must say this 3134 02:14:38,950 --> 02:14:36,830 dick is really on the ball and he sure 3135 02:14:40,959 --> 02:14:38,960 has an acciden up the other thing we 3136 02:14:43,750 --> 02:14:40,969 wanted to I just didn't want it to be my 3137 02:14:46,180 --> 02:14:43,760 opinion people reading my opinion and me 3138 02:14:50,260 --> 02:14:46,190 telling them about the documents in this 3139 02:14:52,780 --> 02:14:50,270 book you can read every document we've 3140 02:14:56,050 --> 02:14:52,790 reprinted them all just the way they are 3141 02:14:58,090 --> 02:14:56,060 now some of them you know are there's a 3142 02:15:00,340 --> 02:14:58,100 lot of stuff that's blacked out in them 3143 02:15:02,919 --> 02:15:00,350 you know stuff that you can't read in 3144 02:15:04,479 --> 02:15:02,929 the document but you can read enough to 3145 02:15:07,150 --> 02:15:04,489 understand what they're talking about 3146 02:15:08,890 --> 02:15:07,160 most cases yeah they read acts sources 3147 02:15:12,700 --> 02:15:08,900 and methods obviously and in some of 3148 02:15:14,439 --> 02:15:12,710 these documents because they do but you 3149 02:15:16,419 --> 02:15:14,449 know you fight your way through it well 3150 02:15:18,459 --> 02:15:16,429 here's another another part of part 3151 02:15:21,010 --> 02:15:18,469 three that I found very intriguing and 3152 02:15:22,780 --> 02:15:21,020 that was the whole idea of of an 3153 02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:22,790 Internet kill switch day in this 3154 02:15:28,209 --> 02:15:25,370 particular issue I think goes to the 3155 02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:28,219 heart of a lot of our listeners fears 3156 02:15:34,750 --> 02:15:31,040 and the interest in terms of the the 3157 02:15:38,169 --> 02:15:34,760 actual ability for the government to 3158 02:15:40,660 --> 02:15:38,179 kill the Internet and we become so 3159 02:15:43,540 --> 02:15:40,670 dependent and I'm guilty of this more 3160 02:15:45,490 --> 02:15:43,550 than probably most people of relying on 3161 02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:45,500 the internet for so much and so much 3162 02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:47,690 commerce is is is being conducted now 3163 02:15:53,410 --> 02:15:50,690 online what did you find out about this 3164 02:15:55,330 --> 02:15:53,420 particular kill switch idea and how 3165 02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:55,340 about the homeland security 3166 02:15:59,709 --> 02:15:56,810 cybersecurity agreement with the 3167 02:16:02,620 --> 02:15:59,719 Pentagon well again this is this is not 3168 02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:02,630 the kill switch was done our government 3169 02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:04,370 gave the president the ability to 3170 02:16:09,070 --> 02:16:06,530 literally shut down the internet and you 3171 02:16:11,020 --> 02:16:09,080 knew it was going to happen I did the 3172 02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:11,030 internet was the new freedom place this 3173 02:16:14,750 --> 02:16:12,650 is where everything could happen this is 3174 02:16:17,300 --> 02:16:14,760 where there wasn't government 3175 02:16:19,130 --> 02:16:17,310 control well rest assured the 3176 02:16:22,460 --> 02:16:19,140 government's going to not let that go on 3177 02:16:24,590 --> 02:16:22,470 they want to control everything and so 3178 02:16:27,860 --> 02:16:24,600 they granted the president the power 3179 02:16:30,410 --> 02:16:27,870 that quote in a state of emergency he 3180 02:16:32,450 --> 02:16:30,420 can literally shut down the internet if 3181 02:16:34,759 --> 02:16:32,460 he designers to and you can read all 3182 02:16:36,500 --> 02:16:34,769 about it in the book and if that don't 3183 02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:36,510 scare all the people out there on the 3184 02:16:42,049 --> 02:16:39,120 Internet well what would then and then 3185 02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:42,059 of course uh uh you gotta remember I'm 3186 02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:43,889 kind of reviewing this too cuz we wrote 3187 02:16:48,290 --> 02:16:46,050 the book six months ago and I'm already 3188 02:16:51,020 --> 02:16:48,300 on to my new book so you know and the 3189 02:16:53,540 --> 02:16:51,030 Homeland Security cyberspace agreement 3190 02:16:55,790 --> 02:16:53,550 is just with the Pentagon is just 3191 02:16:58,190 --> 02:16:55,800 Homeland Security working hand-in-hand 3192 02:17:00,589 --> 02:16:58,200 with the Pentagon again to control to 3193 02:17:02,419 --> 02:17:00,599 control cyberspace in the internet you 3194 02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:02,429 know that they can't let it run them up 3195 02:17:07,370 --> 02:17:04,650 they have to try to control it don't you 3196 02:17:09,740 --> 02:17:07,380 think so I guess in terms of national 3197 02:17:11,720 --> 02:17:09,750 emergency maybe but you see what we're 3198 02:17:13,820 --> 02:17:11,730 seeing here with the Patriot Act and 3199 02:17:15,410 --> 02:17:13,830 everything else losing our freedoms 3200 02:17:16,940 --> 02:17:15,420 you're somebody who fought for freedom 3201 02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:16,950 in the sense because you were in the 3202 02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:20,130 Navy so the question I would have is how 3203 02:17:23,570 --> 02:17:22,080 does someone like you persuade more 3204 02:17:24,980 --> 02:17:23,580 people right now of course you got the 3205 02:17:27,410 --> 02:17:24,990 book it's done well you've got these 3206 02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:27,420 books you've got the TV show but people 3207 02:17:31,370 --> 02:17:29,250 will still regard you frankly as 3208 02:17:33,919 --> 02:17:31,380 possibly being a fringe character how do 3209 02:17:36,259 --> 02:17:33,929 you basically break through that and get 3210 02:17:38,450 --> 02:17:36,269 more credibility I don't know what can I 3211 02:17:40,940 --> 02:17:38,460 do about it I simply will challenge 3212 02:17:43,730 --> 02:17:40,950 everybody like when people tell me when 3213 02:17:46,570 --> 02:17:43,740 people challenge me on 9/11 I always 3214 02:17:49,580 --> 02:17:46,580 look at them and say well what actual 3215 02:17:51,830 --> 02:17:49,590 investigation if you've done of 9/11 3216 02:17:53,750 --> 02:17:51,840 other than listening to what mainstream 3217 02:17:56,690 --> 02:17:53,760 media has told you and what the 3218 02:17:59,000 --> 02:17:56,700 government has told you and 99 times out 3219 02:18:01,490 --> 02:17:59,010 of a hundred the person will say well I 3220 02:18:02,900 --> 02:18:01,500 haven't done any more than that and then 3221 02:18:05,540 --> 02:18:02,910 I'll say well then how can you question 3222 02:18:07,759 --> 02:18:05,550 me when I've been investigating it 3223 02:18:10,430 --> 02:18:07,769 reading documents for over three and a 3224 02:18:13,310 --> 02:18:10,440 half four years on it now and so that's 3225 02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:13,320 how I fight back on it because I get 3226 02:18:18,589 --> 02:18:16,410 people by getting them to admit they 3227 02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:18,599 know nothing more than what they've been 3228 02:18:22,940 --> 02:18:21,450 told yeah well what advice do you have 3229 02:18:25,730 --> 02:18:22,950 for people that that are 3230 02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:25,740 you know in the in the words of our lead 3231 02:18:29,180 --> 02:18:27,930 character in the movie Network the 3232 02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:29,190 people out there that are mad as hell 3233 02:18:32,480 --> 02:18:30,570 and they don't want to take it anymore 3234 02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:32,490 what else would you have for people 3235 02:18:38,720 --> 02:18:35,040 here's the advice I have for everyone 3236 02:18:40,940 --> 02:18:38,730 and it's the most simple one as the nose 3237 02:18:45,440 --> 02:18:40,950 on your face and you know what it is 3238 02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:45,450 here it is the next election vote for 3239 02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:49,410 anybody but Democrats or Republicans we 3240 02:18:54,500 --> 02:18:51,810 still have the power of that hope and 3241 02:18:57,860 --> 02:18:54,510 it's time to vote Democrats and 3242 02:19:00,560 --> 02:18:57,870 Republicans out of office vote only for 3243 02:19:04,280 --> 02:19:00,570 independent candidates somebody who has 3244 02:19:06,770 --> 02:19:04,290 not sold out the corporations and all 3245 02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:06,780 that that's what we need that happen and 3246 02:19:11,150 --> 02:19:08,210 I'll tell you what else I'm now 3247 02:19:14,030 --> 02:19:11,160 supporting I no longer support the third 3248 02:19:16,670 --> 02:19:14,040 party movement because my belief is the 3249 02:19:20,150 --> 02:19:16,680 Democrats and Republicans have corrupted 3250 02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:20,160 the system so bad that any third party 3251 02:19:25,670 --> 02:19:22,770 in which to survive is going to have to 3252 02:19:27,950 --> 02:19:25,680 corrupt itself well you've already got a 3253 02:19:30,350 --> 02:19:27,960 two-headed monster why would you need a 3254 02:19:33,530 --> 02:19:30,360 three-headed one and here's where we can 3255 02:19:36,980 --> 02:19:33,540 start we need to make it at the ballot 3256 02:19:40,430 --> 02:19:36,990 box the voting booth only names no 3257 02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:40,440 parties only names why our party's 3258 02:19:45,860 --> 02:19:43,650 listed on a ballot well encourage is of 3259 02:19:48,290 --> 02:19:45,870 course people who believe one party 3260 02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:48,300 stands for this the other party stands 3261 02:19:52,671 --> 02:19:50,130 for that of course it's basically 3262 02:19:54,650 --> 02:19:52,681 control you know like the old tradition 3263 02:19:56,421 --> 02:19:54,660 let me give the example of tradition 3264 02:19:58,460 --> 02:19:56,431 when I was growing up my father said the 3265 02:20:02,810 --> 02:19:58,470 Democrats are for the people the working 3266 02:20:05,900 --> 02:20:02,820 man the Republicans are for business but 3267 02:20:08,750 --> 02:20:05,910 if you remove the party and say just put 3268 02:20:12,410 --> 02:20:08,760 names down then it's Dennis inhairent 3269 02:20:15,440 --> 02:20:12,420 upon every voter to educate himself ok 3270 02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:15,450 what does John Smith stand for all you 3271 02:20:19,011 --> 02:20:17,730 got to do is remove the party see now 3272 02:20:21,171 --> 02:20:19,021 you can go in and if you're a 3273 02:20:23,060 --> 02:20:21,181 conservative you don't even need to know 3274 02:20:25,551 --> 02:20:23,070 the names Republican Republican 3275 02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:25,561 Republican Republican if you're a 3276 02:20:30,440 --> 02:20:28,170 liberal Democrat Democrat Democrat 3277 02:20:33,350 --> 02:20:30,450 Democrat let's remove that 3278 02:20:35,870 --> 02:20:33,360 let's put only names down that way you 3279 02:20:36,620 --> 02:20:35,880 as a voter you got to find out what that 3280 02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:36,630 person stood 3281 02:20:39,650 --> 02:20:39,210 four and that's also remove electronic 3282 02:20:46,700 --> 02:20:39,660 voting 3283 02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:46,710 machines yes like any computer they can 3284 02:20:52,700 --> 02:20:49,530 be hacked into go back to look at it 3285 02:20:55,880 --> 02:20:52,710 this way my god yes you can't take a 3286 02:20:58,100 --> 02:20:55,890 pencil and circle us and fill in a 3287 02:20:59,420 --> 02:20:58,110 circle what have you been doing that 3288 02:21:01,310 --> 02:20:59,430 since first grade 3289 02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:01,320 well you thinking that hanging in Schad 3290 02:21:06,530 --> 02:21:04,290 ray she's still in a circle and darken 3291 02:21:12,139 --> 02:21:06,540 it in if you're not capable of doing 3292 02:21:13,610 --> 02:21:12,149 that then you shouldn't be voting right 3293 02:21:15,020 --> 02:21:13,620 but you can't I mean you've been doing 3294 02:21:17,330 --> 02:21:15,030 it since first grade 3295 02:21:19,730 --> 02:21:17,340 the first test should take multiple 3296 02:21:23,179 --> 02:21:19,740 choice you know circle 3297 02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:23,189 a B or C well my god if you can't do 3298 02:21:26,900 --> 02:21:24,810 that you shouldn't even be voting 3299 02:21:29,060 --> 02:21:26,910 because you're so stupid well you know 3300 02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:29,070 it's one thing here I was remembering 3301 02:21:34,460 --> 02:21:30,930 the fact that you have all these 3302 02:21:37,040 --> 02:21:34,470 computers being used for voting and many 3303 02:21:39,139 --> 02:21:37,050 of them have no backup system you know 3304 02:21:40,460 --> 02:21:39,149 there's no second record and a lot of 3305 02:21:42,980 --> 02:21:40,470 them didn't even have a paper trail so 3306 02:21:46,310 --> 02:21:42,990 you would vote it would disappear into 3307 02:21:49,940 --> 02:21:46,320 cyberspace ones and zeros but you'd have 3308 02:21:53,179 --> 02:21:49,950 no way to certify in the real world that 3309 02:21:55,730 --> 02:21:53,189 that was the vote exactly let me put it 3310 02:21:58,310 --> 02:21:55,740 in this context for you would you go to 3311 02:22:01,670 --> 02:21:58,320 an ATM 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02:27:08,731 --> 02:27:08,141 send your email news at the para cast 3437 02:27:10,591 --> 02:27:08,741 com 3438 02:27:13,531 --> 02:27:10,601 once again that's news of the para cast 3439 02:27:15,361 --> 02:27:13,541 com where we read every message we get 3440 02:27:16,890 --> 02:27:15,371 it's not the end of our journey it's 3441 02:27:19,381 --> 02:27:16,900 probably the beginning because there's 3442 02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:19,391 so much fascinating information to think 3443 02:27:25,831 --> 02:27:22,150 about all these documents that Jesse and 3444 02:27:27,930 --> 02:27:25,841 Dick Russell had assembled to show all 3445 02:27:30,031 --> 02:27:27,940 these crazy things going on you have to 3446 02:27:32,310 --> 02:27:30,041 wonder with all these documents and the 3447 02:27:34,411 --> 02:27:32,320 incredible things governor Ventura they 3448 02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:34,421 present do you think at some point 3449 02:27:38,850 --> 02:27:36,730 someone must feel why did we let that 3450 02:27:40,291 --> 02:27:38,860 stuff get out why wasn't it put above 3451 02:27:42,331 --> 02:27:40,301 top secret or something 3452 02:27:44,310 --> 02:27:42,341 no I don't think so because they know 3453 02:27:45,661 --> 02:27:44,320 that the people of the United States are 3454 02:27:47,401 --> 02:27:45,671 not going to take the time to read 3455 02:27:49,801 --> 02:27:47,411 anything you know take a look at the 3456 02:27:53,100 --> 02:27:49,811 dumbing down of America I remember a 3457 02:27:57,481 --> 02:27:53,110 year or two ago when for literally 30 to 3458 02:27:59,970 --> 02:27:57,491 45 days every news media in America one 3459 02:28:04,491 --> 02:27:59,980 of their major story was the death of 3460 02:28:09,810 --> 02:28:08,310 Spears or Lindsay Lohan oh hey and 3461 02:28:13,140 --> 02:28:09,820 here's another story she might go to 3462 02:28:15,091 --> 02:28:13,150 jails okay so what exactly they even 3463 02:28:17,791 --> 02:28:15,101 remember when they even sent a mobile 3464 02:28:19,890 --> 02:28:17,801 down to where she died they had cameras 3465 02:28:21,961 --> 02:28:19,900 down there with a guy outside the hotel 3466 02:28:23,401 --> 02:28:21,971 oh yeah ran and Nicole Smith and we 3467 02:28:25,621 --> 02:28:23,411 start talking about the lawyer who 3468 02:28:27,001 --> 02:28:25,631 happens to be also named Howard case 3469 02:28:29,911 --> 02:28:27,011 turn just like of course we all know 3470 02:28:31,771 --> 02:28:29,921 Howard Stern right it's just a crazy 3471 02:28:33,930 --> 02:28:31,781 story you know you probably know more 3472 02:28:35,491 --> 02:28:33,940 about than I did because any time they'd 3473 02:28:36,180 --> 02:28:35,501 have that on TV had walked into the 3474 02:28:38,251 --> 02:28:36,190 other room 3475 02:28:39,691 --> 02:28:38,261 oh I never watched that crap I don't 3476 02:28:43,381 --> 02:28:39,701 know nothing about it I turned the 3477 02:28:45,871 --> 02:28:43,391 channel I mean every every news I didn't 3478 02:28:50,850 --> 02:28:45,881 care what there was box if there was ABC 3479 02:28:53,251 --> 02:28:50,860 NBC CNN for 30 to 45 days all we heard 3480 02:28:55,381 --> 02:28:53,261 about was the death of Anna Nicole Smith 3481 02:28:56,821 --> 02:28:55,391 no it's Charlie Sheen you know what's 3482 02:28:58,350 --> 02:28:56,831 interesting and frightening about this 3483 02:29:00,390 --> 02:28:58,360 we all talk about the so-called 3484 02:29:02,220 --> 02:29:00,400 mainstream media and then of course the 3485 02:29:04,801 --> 02:29:02,230 Conservatives say it's a liberal media 3486 02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:04,811 but actually it's a corporate media the 3487 02:29:08,230 --> 02:29:06,650 local newspapers are 3488 02:29:09,820 --> 02:29:08,240 League on the local radio and TV 3489 02:29:12,780 --> 02:29:09,830 stations are mostly gone they're all 3490 02:29:15,490 --> 02:29:12,790 owned by large corporations that have 3491 02:29:17,410 --> 02:29:15,500 really specific interests that may not 3492 02:29:19,600 --> 02:29:17,420 be in our interest I couldn't agree with 3493 02:29:21,220 --> 02:29:19,610 you more I can't add a thing to that 3494 02:29:22,961 --> 02:29:21,230 you're exactly correct 3495 02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:22,971 why that work I can't say anything about 3496 02:29:28,841 --> 02:29:26,690 that you're correct hey one time in this 3497 02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:28,851 show I'm correct thank you so much 3498 02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:31,730 governor Ventura before we wrap it up 3499 02:29:35,950 --> 02:29:33,290 Chris you have a few more questions you 3500 02:29:38,740 --> 02:29:35,960 want to ask well you know gosh we could 3501 02:29:40,900 --> 02:29:38,750 go on for quite a while I'm just I'm so 3502 02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:40,910 fascinated by this book and I really 3503 02:29:46,501 --> 02:29:42,650 want to stress to our listeners that 3504 02:29:48,791 --> 02:29:46,511 there are actual copies hard copies 3505 02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:48,801 reprinted in the book of the actual 3506 02:29:53,890 --> 02:29:50,450 documents that are being referred to in 3507 02:29:56,140 --> 02:29:53,900 the text so this is a unique book and I 3508 02:29:58,720 --> 02:29:56,150 think it's a book that all Americans who 3509 02:30:00,700 --> 02:29:58,730 have even the slightest interest in what 3510 02:30:02,470 --> 02:30:00,710 is really going on in this country and 3511 02:30:05,440 --> 02:30:02,480 in the in the history of this country 3512 02:30:07,270 --> 02:30:05,450 and very crucial key events and and key 3513 02:30:09,430 --> 02:30:07,280 subjects should should really take the 3514 02:30:11,171 --> 02:30:09,440 time to go out get this book and get 3515 02:30:13,091 --> 02:30:11,181 yourself up to speed and I want to 3516 02:30:15,341 --> 02:30:13,101 before I go on here 3517 02:30:17,320 --> 02:30:15,351 congratulate you on the courage that 3518 02:30:19,810 --> 02:30:17,330 would take to do a book like this Jesse 3519 02:30:21,490 --> 02:30:19,820 and and also you know all the hard work 3520 02:30:24,761 --> 02:30:21,500 that you and dick obviously put into 3521 02:30:27,091 --> 02:30:24,771 this project and one of our listeners is 3522 02:30:30,610 --> 02:30:27,101 really interested to know what other 3523 02:30:32,980 --> 02:30:30,620 projects you have you know near term and 3524 02:30:36,820 --> 02:30:32,990 in back-burnered are you gonna continue 3525 02:30:40,390 --> 02:30:36,830 being a spokesperson for openness in in 3526 02:30:42,220 --> 02:30:40,400 these subject areas are you gonna resume 3527 02:30:44,011 --> 02:30:42,230 your acting career another listener 3528 02:30:46,841 --> 02:30:44,021 wanted to know if you have any plans on 3529 02:30:49,060 --> 02:30:46,851 possibly doing some cameos what's in the 3530 02:30:51,461 --> 02:30:49,070 pipeline for you well you know dick and 3531 02:30:54,730 --> 02:30:51,471 I are working on another book right now 3532 02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:54,740 that will probably be out I would guess 3533 02:30:59,291 --> 02:30:57,410 next year at some point it'll be of 3534 02:31:01,690 --> 02:30:59,301 another very interesting topic 3535 02:31:04,900 --> 02:31:01,700 completely different from this one what 3536 02:31:07,690 --> 02:31:04,910 still ties in to government in its way 3537 02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:07,700 that's that's the standard tie-in but it 3538 02:31:12,131 --> 02:31:09,650 won't be over documents or it won't be 3539 02:31:14,530 --> 02:31:12,141 over conspiracies that's all I'll say 3540 02:31:16,780 --> 02:31:14,540 about that the next book coming out I 3541 02:31:18,970 --> 02:31:16,790 don't know I will tell you this it's 3542 02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:18,980 starting out there the grass roots again 3543 02:31:22,380 --> 02:31:19,930 the Ventura 3544 02:31:24,330 --> 02:31:22,390 president my son warned me he said dad 3545 02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:24,340 it's starting up in you and it's getting 3546 02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:27,370 close to 2012 and it's rising and said 3547 02:31:31,110 --> 02:31:29,410 and I don't know what I'm gonna do I 3548 02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:31,120 really don't know I know that I'm gonna 3549 02:31:35,820 --> 02:31:33,910 go after Mexican citizen I think and I'm 3550 02:31:38,010 --> 02:31:35,830 gonna continue to live half my life in 3551 02:31:39,689 --> 02:31:38,020 Mexico because I enjoy it so much I 3552 02:31:41,429 --> 02:31:39,699 can't really tell you what's on the 3553 02:31:44,099 --> 02:31:41,439 burner for me other than right now I'm 3554 02:31:46,590 --> 02:31:44,109 just doing that book and of course if if 3555 02:31:49,260 --> 02:31:46,600 conspiracy theory gets brought up for a 3556 02:31:51,269 --> 02:31:49,270 third season hopefully I'll be back to 3557 02:31:53,790 --> 02:31:51,279 do that although I do have to negotiate 3558 02:31:56,340 --> 02:31:53,800 a new contract this time my contract is 3559 02:31:58,110 --> 02:31:56,350 completely up so that will be part of it 3560 02:32:00,929 --> 02:31:58,120 too because naturally you don't work for 3561 02:32:03,630 --> 02:32:00,939 free you know and above and beyond that 3562 02:32:06,179 --> 02:32:03,640 will I seek public office again I don't 3563 02:32:08,729 --> 02:32:06,189 know you know after 59 years you you 3564 02:32:11,550 --> 02:32:08,739 learn never to say never times could 3565 02:32:13,979 --> 02:32:11,560 change if the right scenario I think 3566 02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:13,989 personally a great ticket would be Ron 3567 02:32:18,420 --> 02:32:16,810 Paul and myself yeah you dedicate the 3568 02:32:21,330 --> 02:32:18,430 book to ron paul by the way i want to 3569 02:32:23,099 --> 02:32:21,340 tell her Alyssa's oh and I dedicated it 3570 02:32:24,929 --> 02:32:23,109 to him because of the speech he made I'm 3571 02:32:28,290 --> 02:32:24,939 a congressional floor about WikiLeaks 3572 02:32:30,960 --> 02:32:28,300 where Ron Paul so eloquently said in a 3573 02:32:32,729 --> 02:32:30,970 free country when telling the truth you 3574 02:32:34,920 --> 02:32:32,739 get accused of treason 3575 02:32:36,780 --> 02:32:34,930 we're in pretty bad shape when the truth 3576 02:32:38,639 --> 02:32:36,790 is treason you know which I agree 3577 02:32:40,380 --> 02:32:38,649 totally Ron Paul was the only one with 3578 02:32:43,439 --> 02:32:40,390 courage enough you got all these other 3579 02:32:45,420 --> 02:32:43,449 bozos attacking having open government 3580 02:32:47,969 --> 02:32:45,430 and being able to read all the secret 3581 02:32:50,729 --> 02:32:47,979 stuff I agree with Congressman Paul 3582 02:32:53,490 --> 02:32:50,739 we need more WikiLeaks not less it's 3583 02:32:56,700 --> 02:32:53,500 interesting how does he stay in office 3584 02:32:59,460 --> 02:32:56,710 being so strong and so strong-minded 3585 02:33:02,340 --> 02:32:59,470 with his viewpoints he's very consistent 3586 02:33:04,139 --> 02:33:02,350 about where he stands and you find so 3587 02:33:06,599 --> 02:33:04,149 many other politicians who basically 3588 02:33:09,510 --> 02:33:06,609 blow where the wind is in terms of being 3589 02:33:11,880 --> 02:33:09,520 reelected well obviously in his district 3590 02:33:14,519 --> 02:33:11,890 in Texas they like a plain talkin guy 3591 02:33:16,110 --> 02:33:14,529 who tells him the truth because Ron wins 3592 02:33:18,630 --> 02:33:16,120 every time and he wins pretty 3593 02:33:20,250 --> 02:33:18,640 substantially I don't think he I don't 3594 02:33:21,900 --> 02:33:20,260 think you'll have to leave Congress til 3595 02:33:24,479 --> 02:33:21,910 he wants to you know because obviously 3596 02:33:26,670 --> 02:33:24,489 in his district they like him very much 3597 02:33:29,010 --> 02:33:26,680 and you know there's that groundswell 3598 02:33:31,679 --> 02:33:29,020 across the nation for him and that 3599 02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:31,689 justice I think sometimes there is for 3600 02:33:36,260 --> 02:33:33,810 me because I see it happen and 3601 02:33:38,810 --> 02:33:36,270 you know we'll see you're not declaring 3602 02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:38,820 yourself are you oh no I never would do 3603 02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:41,130 that at this point not at all but no boy 3604 02:33:44,270 --> 02:33:42,930 that'd be a scoop Jean if we had Jessie 3605 02:33:47,450 --> 02:33:44,280 say he's running for president 3606 02:33:49,790 --> 02:33:47,460 I could see it now Donald Trump Barack 3607 02:33:52,490 --> 02:33:49,800 Obama and Jesse Ventura with Ron Paul 3608 02:33:54,890 --> 02:33:52,500 what an election that would be one for 3609 02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:54,900 the ages and I would have a very easy 3610 02:33:58,490 --> 02:33:56,250 time voting on that one 3611 02:34:01,820 --> 02:33:58,500 I don't think Donald Trump will be a 3612 02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:01,830 nomination he he rear just had a few 3613 02:34:06,260 --> 02:34:04,050 years ago with the Reform Party wanting 3614 02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:06,270 to run him he disappeared pretty quickly 3615 02:34:11,690 --> 02:34:09,330 I think I know the Donald very well and 3616 02:34:13,670 --> 02:34:11,700 I consider him a friend I think Donald 3617 02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:13,680 just likes to be in the limelight and he 3618 02:34:18,200 --> 02:34:15,570 knows that he makes rumblings about 3619 02:34:20,210 --> 02:34:18,210 being the president or running that's 3620 02:34:22,010 --> 02:34:20,220 gonna get him on Bill O'Reilly like he 3621 02:34:24,200 --> 02:34:22,020 was the other day sure and that's good 3622 02:34:26,660 --> 02:34:24,210 get him try me of publicity but when 3623 02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:26,670 push comes to shove I think Donald Trump 3624 02:34:32,480 --> 02:34:29,490 prefers doing private sector business 3625 02:34:34,490 --> 02:34:32,490 like he does rather than a specter he's 3626 02:34:37,010 --> 02:34:34,500 basically goofing on us then yeah I 3627 02:34:39,170 --> 02:34:37,020 think so I might be wrong but I don't 3628 02:34:41,930 --> 02:34:39,180 think I think when push comes to shove 3629 02:34:43,970 --> 02:34:41,940 he's not gonna do it I'd be surprised if 3630 02:34:47,300 --> 02:34:43,980 he wanted to go through all that all 3631 02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:47,310 that pain and agony trying to run for 3632 02:34:51,830 --> 02:34:49,530 office that's gotta be a harder job 3633 02:34:55,460 --> 02:34:51,840 almost than being president to run for 3634 02:34:57,950 --> 02:34:55,470 president well it depend on it you know 3635 02:35:00,560 --> 02:34:57,960 to me it's the key to it all is the is 3636 02:35:01,960 --> 02:35:00,570 the debates because like I said if I can 3637 02:35:04,400 --> 02:35:01,970 debate them I can beat them because 3638 02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:04,410 Democrats and Republicans have far too 3639 02:35:08,810 --> 02:35:06,810 much negative baggage and it's easy to 3640 02:35:10,550 --> 02:35:08,820 exploit them and you know when I ran for 3641 02:35:13,250 --> 02:35:10,560 governor of Minnesota in one of its 3642 02:35:15,260 --> 02:35:13,260 baits I made the biggest mistake you 3643 02:35:18,260 --> 02:35:15,270 could make in a debate you know what it 3644 02:35:20,390 --> 02:35:18,270 was ask me a question and I turned and 3645 02:35:22,340 --> 02:35:20,400 said I don't know and there was a pause 3646 02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:22,350 wait there was a pause of like four 3647 02:35:30,530 --> 02:35:25,200 three seconds and the crowd erupted into 3648 02:35:32,240 --> 02:35:30,540 cheering and applause we're getting the 3649 02:35:33,860 --> 02:35:32,250 guy here that tells the truth and then 3650 02:35:36,080 --> 02:35:33,870 when I when they were done cheering and 3651 02:35:38,270 --> 02:35:36,090 applauding I then said but if it's 3652 02:35:40,340 --> 02:35:38,280 important I'll certainly learn about it 3653 02:35:42,500 --> 02:35:40,350 tell you what we've learned a lot in the 3654 02:35:44,480 --> 02:35:42,510 last couple of hours about what you do 3655 02:35:45,501 --> 02:35:44,490 and what you believe what's that website 3656 02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:45,511 again that 3657 02:35:51,921 --> 02:35:47,610 was set up for you by your son yeah well 3658 02:35:55,371 --> 02:35:51,931 be we ain't got time to bleed calm we 3659 02:35:58,161 --> 02:35:55,381 all I did was change the I - we we ain't 3660 02:36:01,131 --> 02:35:58,171 got time to bleed calm and it's all one 3661 02:36:03,111 --> 02:36:01,141 worth we ain't got time to bleed DOM and 3662 02:36:05,691 --> 02:36:03,121 Chris have Ryan when we find where your 3663 02:36:08,091 --> 02:36:05,701 stuff well at the forum dot the para 3664 02:36:10,491 --> 02:36:08,101 cast calm I'm a moderator on our great 3665 02:36:13,640 --> 02:36:10,501 forums and also my website is our 3666 02:36:15,981 --> 02:36:13,650 strange planet calm governor Jesse 3667 02:36:18,350 --> 02:36:15,991 Ventura thank you so much for joining us 3668 02:36:20,390 --> 02:36:18,360 this week on the power cast well thank 3669 02:36:23,001 --> 02:36:20,400 you very much gene and thank you Chris 3670 02:36:25,881 --> 02:36:23,011 and let me give kudos to you keep up the 3671 02:36:27,741 --> 02:36:25,891 good work because it's programs like you 3672 02:36:30,470 --> 02:36:27,751 that really bring out the First 3673 02:36:32,631 --> 02:36:30,480 Amendment a free speech because we have 3674 02:36:35,180 --> 02:36:32,641 every right to talk about everything we 3675 02:36:37,581 --> 02:36:35,190 do always remember this the First 3676 02:36:39,951 --> 02:36:37,591 Amendment's not there to protect popular 3677 02:36:42,100 --> 02:36:39,961 speech because popular speech does it be 3678 02:36:49,161 --> 02:36:42,110 protected it's there to protect 3679 02:37:02,719 --> 02:36:49,171 unpopular thank you guys good day good 3680 02:37:07,679 --> 02:37:05,309 this is a confident presentation of 3681 02:37:10,010 --> 02:37:07,689 making the impossible incorporated tune 3682 02:37:11,700 --> 02:37:10,020 in next week for a new adventure M a